The Middle East Thread

I found it surprising that Ukraine abstained.

I thought if any country would understand Palestines plight it would be a country that is also currently facing it’s own invasion

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Probably Ukraine is trying to make a point, given Israel’s war has diverted attention, resources and support from their own war.

If that is the case (and I sincerely hope it isn’t), then it’s incredibly childish of them.

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US support is key to the Ukraine, my guess would be more strategic. Ensure alignment.

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I think Ukraine are more or less disgusted with many of the strident voices willing to criticize Israel but not Russia, and at the same time there isn’t a vote there that doesn’t cause them problems. If they vote against Israel, they lose even more US support at a critical time when no one else can really make much of a difference. If they vote with Israel, they alienate a huge bloc. It is a no-win situation for them.

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So did Germany , Sweden & Finland and other countries too

Push comes to shove , they aren’t willing to commit to having a line that’s too far from what their overlord (US) demands.

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Not surprising.

A country which is dependent on the largesse of US and it’s allies for survival isn’t going to risk offending them.

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That is of course not the case.
Ukraine has far more important priorities than a political vote that is in any case going to be vetoed. It’s own survival for one…

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Surely this would add weight to the war crimes case currently in the ICJ, no?

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Cry Me A River GIF by GIPHY News

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Can a country be kicked out of the UN if they act like big enough cunts?

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No, because that would make the entire UN antisemitic.

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Not if they’re kicked out for being murderous warmongering cunts.

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If Russia dropped a nuke on Ukraine they would still retain their membership , and their place (along with their veto) on the Security Council.

It’s a funny old world.

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Another excellent piece by Jonathan Freedland:

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Well, most of the European countries abstained. Of the 34 countries which abstained or voted against, 21 are European.

Actually, I’m more surprised that Sweden :sweden: abstained. They are the only western European country to have recognized Palestine.

Israel is preparing to go further into Rafah. They are invading Rafah. It will be a serious challenge for US/Biden to prove that his redline was actually a no-go.

Surprised here too. Guess they don’t walk the talk when it doesn’t suit them.

Plenty of countries do that and still be there in the UN (and in the security council too)

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