The Music Thread (Part 2)

I would love to chat about it if anyone is interested. I’m very much an analogue bof do placement freedom is paramount. I’ve nothing against modern DSP which when there are constraints can really save the situation. ( Most people have other ‘priorities’ when it comes to listening rooms so need some electronic help and all rooms have bass modes.
So I’ll always try and give the best advice I can.

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Truly excellent from Liz Fraser and TMC collective, A* post punk.

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I find Classical Music similarly challenging to Classical Art and its movements, in terms of wanting to learn but simply not having the time to commit.
Maybe, this is why both seem to be appreciated more by older people.

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I only included it to provide a bit of additional information about the Artist and the Orchestra/Conductor.

It is interesting and when used correctly a joy to see how musicians combine the sounds.
I am a massive fan of Two-Tone/Ska music - I am from Birmingham :joy: - and their use of brass instruments.
UB40, Dexy’s Midnight Runners, the Specials, Madness, Gerry Rafferty (legendarily in Baker Street) and also Ska Punk bands like Rancid sound. Also the use of Analogue/digital.

Additionally, you hear stories about having the different instruments recording in separate rooms.

Was there not a story about the stones recording a certain sound in a cupboard? Thinking about it, it maybe that Jagger/Richards wrote a song in a cupboard at a party :joy:

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Thank you for this, I don’t think I have ever heard this.
I Liked the various sounds in the long intro and I think I noticed a drum machine. Then when the vocals kicked in I thought that is very Cocteau twins. I wasn’t aware of their names so didn’t pick up on the Liz Fraser mention. :+1:t2:

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I really enjoyed the Ska music I felt it was a real breath of fresh air at the time. It still is something I turn to when I feel swamped by other genres. A little break.

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I picked up a double CD of Ska in a charity shop (best of ska or something) which was a mix of 1960s stuff and Two Tone. There isn’t a bad track on it. It’s my go to happy album if I’m on a long drive.

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Cheers, I had not heard of it myself until late Aug this year, some dude on X posted it in tribute to Liz’s birthday. Neither had my mate heard it either who has encyclopaedic Liz Fraser knowledge. She is up there with the greatest ever female vocalisits, but she is and has been my no 1 from first hearing her.

This track is an absolute belter.

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@RedWhippet @Flobs

There was recently a history series on 6 music about the origins of Rastafarian music which is well worth listening to.
It is very informative, from how it originated from the Alpha Boys School, which was a home for at boys at risk. I think they were trained by Military Band Master, producing artists like Don Drummond who formed the Skatalites.
The original sound is called Mentor, it then branched off in various forms.
The Mentor sound came with the Mentor dance, which was European influenced in pace but was more fluid and didn’t have the up right, straight back European form.
Because it was quite frantic, it lead to a lot of conflicts on the dance floor with people bumping into each other. Because of this, the sound transitioned in to the slower beat we are all familiar with.
I found it very interesting, how it was further influenced by Cuba and India. How, families would arrange to meet up and listen to UK/US music together due to a shortage of Radios. This then lead to the rise of the Sound System, which was literally sound equipment, loaded onto a flat bed truck which would drive around or pull up at locations and just blast music.
When Jamaica was forming a Government after independence, the two political parties used the Sound System as a form of promotion, weaponising it which formed the ‘Rude Boy’ term.

Sorry, i appreciate that I have waffled on but it is only because I enjoyed it so much. There is also a recent interview with Jimmy Cliff which is equally as interesting.

Trying to get back on point, after understanding the origins of Ska, it makes me respect the Specials even more. It is used as a form
Of protest, whether that be from colonialism, Government to more social issues.
The Specials and other bands, used it in the same form, as voice, the most obvious example being Ghost Town.

Again, sorry for the long post.

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name of the show?

massive Ska and Jamaican music in general, fan here… have not heard of this but would love to find a way to watch it

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I found the link. It only stays on BBC Iplayer for a month or so, so get on it quick :+1:t2:

Fuck, sorry Iv just seen it is not available. Let me try and find another link.

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cheers/

didnt realise ‘6 music’ was a radio chanel

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Sorry, I actually linked a completely different programme. I will return shortly with hopefully so good news :+1:t2:

So this is the programme.

It is not available on 6 music because it was last aired over a month ago. I will try and find a copy of it from another source :+1:t2:

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Yeah, it is a BBC production. It almost got cancelled years ago due to Corporation cuts but there was a big protest and was saved.
I find it a great source for new music, their presenters are very passionate and educated in music so you get a lot more information than a DJ just sticking on a pop track and talking about rubbish to fill the air time.

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Here you go. It’s on YouTube. 10 episodes in total. Iv just realised it’s from 1983

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hippie GIF

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First gig in a little while tonight. Alela Diane. Seen her once before a few years back at the Union Chapel in London, it was a wonderful gig. Tonight at the Stoller Hall. Here’s an older favourite and a tune from her new album for those interested.

As for classical and jazz, if I remember after the gig I’ll post some favourites of mine.

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I was just interested if anyone notably @Redbj had enjoyed the Mentor links. I personally enjoyed them but this was over long drive home.

On another note, I thought it would be interesting to discuss upcoming Gigs people were going to attend.
Due to work I missed the Madra Salach gig at the Arts Club, but will try and catch them in Oxford.
Iv got tickets to ‘Get down services’ which I highly recommend and also ‘Fat Dog’ in Birmingham.

Get down services.

I accept the video I linked may not sell Get down Services but they are honestly so so good