I’d rather keep FSG or have new owners who spend on the same level of FSG than see my Club being (part)owned by someone from the Middle East.
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I’m sure that not everybody from the middle east is a murdering nutcase who imprisons women and doesn’t mind immigrant workers falling off stadiums. Even by my standards that’s a harsh generalisation.
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On what legal basis? It can’t just be “We don’t like you so you can’t buy a club in our country”
I’m sure that every possible investor from the Middle East has links to blood money.
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Yeah, the whole background of support behind Klopp has been so important for the success of this club. And we know how important a harmonic functioning between the different departments of the club are for sustained success.
In my book, that has been fsg’s main achievement: to have high-quality employees all over the club, being on the same page and working as a unit. We know from hard experience how difficult that is, and how Moores and then g+h made a hash of it, for different reasons.
Now this all seems to crumble away. Klopp can’t be far away from resigning too imo.
Very worrying times ahead for the club. Disharmony and instability is the worst of all.
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I think from a fans perspective it would be mass hypocrisy after the outrage we’ve displayed over dealings from Man City.
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And I thought I had this year’s blanket stereo-type award. What if Jeff Bez moves to Saudi tomorrow? Would you be against his ownership because of where he lives?
Verging on casual racism here mate.
That’s not the point. The suggestion was that the government should stop us being sold to oil money from the east. Again, on what legal basis? As above, surely not everybody from the region is a murdering oppressive tyrant.
United being bought by Westbro Baptist Church would be epic.
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From all accounts he’s the primary reason for this and has taken more power over contract renewals and transfers.
Agree with you to a certain extent, firstly while the Middle East billionaires might have blood money, are the European or American billionaires any better? So to blanket call them as blood money billionaires from a whole region, is as if, billionaires from the western world is any better. But I also don’t agree in the sense that because to me, all billionaires are bastards to a certain degree and its hard to say who is a kinder bastard. Is a bastard who don’t kill people directly but one who proxy runs sweat factories a better bastard? Even FSG, whose ownership I think has been great for us, if you ask me, is John a perfect gentleman? I will never believe that he became a billionaire being a perfect gentleman. I know not everyone believes in the bible but there is one saying in it that I always believe in that its harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. So to me its really pointless to debate who is a better billionaire.
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I don’t know this for a fact but I did hear on a debate once that there was a gate in Jerusalem which was quite narrow and called “the eye of the needle” Might be nonsense. Would mean it’s tricky but not impossible.
Imagine winning the lottery and putting the lot on 2 successive 100-1 horses. It’s “possible” to have an absolute fortune without blood, sweat and tears.
Unlikely but the blanket accusation is just wrong.
Edit, from WIKI:
The “Eye of the Needle” has been claimed to be a gate in Jerusalem, which opened after the main gate was closed at night. A camel could not pass through the smaller gate unless it was stooped and had its baggage removed. The story has been put forth since at least the 15th century and possibly as far back as the 9th century. However, there is no widely accepted evidence for the existence of such a gate.[9][10]
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Yes I am uncomfortable with blanket accusations too but more so from a point of view that it seems that people are drawing their own lines what is ethical enough. Like I said, ok if we have the middle eastern owners who have dodgy human rights records, would say the Zara owner be ok, considering that sweat factories in the fashion industry is a prevalent issue or its ok because he does alot of CSR? I think people nowadays have a line of what is right or wrong that moves at their own whims and fancies.
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The issue isn’t really billionaires, it’s the complete ineffectiveness of FFP.
Jack Walker essentially did the same thing at Blackburn in the 1990s. He blew his wealth on his main passion which was Blackburn FC. Other clubs struggled to compete as they were trying to use existing revenue streams.
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That I can agree. Its useless to set rules that are not enforced.
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The more plausible explanation I’ve heard is that camel is a mistranslation of rope. Anthony Burgess mentioned it as part of his research when he was scripting the Jesus Of Nazareth miniseries.
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Not going into the actual context of the biblical verses but to me whether you are a believer or not, from plain reading that sentence, its like asking a camel to go through a eye of the needle is ridiculous enough, and yet for a rich man to enter heaven is even harder? From just a surface point of context, to me its just that rich people have done too much shit in their lives
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I’m no lawyer , but wouldn’t monopilies and competition rules seem like an obvious place to start ?