Mediocre is harsh.
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Not that sure they went further in the CL this season and we are currently on course for a CL place, bonuses will be down on last season but a general season not that much. Specific player bonuses mind.
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whats a scab?
is that what they used to call an âooterâ?
No, the weasels whoâll cross a picket line, or who wonât support a protest because it inconveniences them.
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this is what i lean intoâŚ
matchday tickets could possibly be heavily subsidised âŚthe crowd is part of the performance, for a guy whos been to anfield only a handfull of times, coming over and paying a premium is acceptable on one level if the experience is genuine⌠otherwise id probably rather head down and watch tranmereâŚ
to me thats the arguement they should lean into⌠the season ticket holder/local supporter IS a part of the packageâŚand thats not some magical âscouseâ only affairâŚits right accross the board in football, any club, anywhere⌠without the generational fans, its a hollow experienceâŚ
football needs to be careful, its already treading the finest of fine linesâŚ
i was in the UK in September and got the Everton and Soton games⌠it was amazing, would have been nothing without a full KOP in full swing thoughâŚ
that KOP end, its part of the package, so really, you could argue it could be heavily subsidisedâŚ
mugs like me will pay the hospitality, drop plenty in the club shop and do the stadium tour as well ( we ticked all those boxes)âŚ
on a seperate note, John Henry and the gang bought this club for 330 million pound or something didnt they? i have zero problems with Mo Salah getting 30/40 odd million for everything hes done, that goes for Gakpo and Gravenberch aswell, if theres money in the game, then the players should be well rewarded, not just the suitsâŚ
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What does their nationality have to do with anything?
Is it fair to ask what SOS are doing to protest the increasingly expensive cost of TV subscriptions for fans in those countries to support their team in the way they can? Because they claim to represent all supporters but seem to only really focus on issues impacting match day fans.
I think itâs fair to say football is a mess. Clubs take advantage of fan loyalty every way they can be that at the match, merchandise through TV deals and everything in between. Every pound into the club is worth the same to them, doesnât matter what route it comes in.
Iâve no real issue with the push back on ticket prices but is it realistic to think theyâll stay the same forever? People point to commercial and TV revenue going up as a reason not to put up ticket prices but fans are paying for those Adidas, Sky and international TV deals one way or the other. Standard Chartered arenât paying ÂŁ50m a year to have their logo shown to 60,000 people in the ground every other week, itâs the size of the global fan base that makes it worth that much. But thereâs rarely a peep from SOS on any of these things.
Always comes over the same with them. If youâre not in the ground every week but your support gets more expensive then fine as long as that helps keep match tickets cheaper for those that can go every week. Again, not adverse to that but they wonât be that honest and upfront about that essentially being what theyâre fighting for.
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SOS prioritising for matchgoing fans is absolutely correct and fair. Obviously.
The cost, the time, the effort, the safety implications, disability awarenessâŚall greater issues for matchgoing fans than those watching at home.
Strange question. International fans face no real hardships, and neednât be the focus of any local fangroups.
Then say that theyâre an organisation for the benefit of match going fans instead of claiming to represent all fans.
There is a cost to all fans. You could get a season ticket for about the same price of the three UK TV packages youâd need to cover all competitions and even then youâd get to watch less than half our games. International fans get up in the middle of the night to watch their team. Thatâs why our revenues have increased.
As you say âall greater issues for match going fansâ which is ultimately who SOS represent and that is fine. Itâs the claims to the contrary that annoy me. This pointing at commercial and TV revenue increases as a reason not to increase ticket prices as if itâs okay for the club to financially benefit from increased cost on those not able to go to games every week in order to stop occasional increases on ticket prices. Thatâs not representing all fans.
I couldnât care less, to be honest.
They do good work for matchgoing fans. They promote disability awareness. They raise money for foodbanks, they raised money for Sean Cox. They advocate the renovation of the Anfield area.
Iâm not interested in their messaging, or whether somebody in India feels underrepresented by them.
Maybe they do have some initiatives that help fans abroad, I wouldnât know.
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My cost to watch us has increased about 150% in the past 5 years or so since Peacock was launched in the US. Ultimately though that comes out at less than the cost of a pint per month.
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Well I guess that proves my point. If theyâre working in your interests youâre more likely to support them. If, like you, they donât actually care about everyone else then thatâs why people might not see issue with the price increases.
Ultimately a season ticket is going to be what, ÂŁ5 a month more in three years time. Iâm sure you can see why fans who will never be able to own a season ticket might show indifference to that given the cost for them continues to get more expensive and is increasingly the source of the clubs revenue but the self-nominated voice of fans doesnât speak on their behalf.
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So about the same as the proposed increase in season ticket prices in three years time then.
They donât work in my interests any more than they do yours - I havenât been to a game since '22 and donât have any plans on changing it. Iâm not a member of SOS either, and never have been.
Itâs not hard to see the good work they do, though, and them putting âand by extension, all Liverpool fansâ on their website doesnât change that, whether itâs dishonest or not. If you want to focus on that, rather than them liaising with clubs about disability travel and access, for example, thatâs your choice, just not a perspective I agree with.
Itâs much, much easier, and cheaper, to be an armchair fan. It just doesnât require the same level of commitment, and by extension, representation.
SOS have at times seemed to focus on campaigns around season ticket holders. I think I agree with the rise in line with wages approach.
Though youâre not that poor if you can afford a season ticket at any PL club.
Personally Iâd go if I was closer but the cost of getting there is expensive enough
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Do SOS only protest on behalf of fans of a certain postal code? Oh match going fans? How many matches do they need to attend before they qualify to be protested on behalf by SOS? It they only attend 5 matches, are they differentiated from those who attended 30? Will SOS protest on behalf of people who constantly resells their 9 pound tickets to touts? Do international fans need approval from SOS before we can support Liverpool? Or do we have to write in to them to tell them how grateful we international fans get to pay thousands of dollars just to watch them in Anfield, but itâs ok, we do not have any hardship since all of us are bloody rich and there are absolutely no international fans who save up for years just to make a trip.
Nobody likes paying more but trying to appear virtuous for only a select group of fans and then appear to brush international fans as having it easy and almost dispensable, is not the way.
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Matchgoing fans, I thought that was clear.
International fans who buy tickets will get them cheaper than they otherwise would have done.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Red Sox clean house, surprisingly at the beginning of the season - with the primary issue appearing to be a failure to develop young players.
Hmmm.
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Donât tell me that we have to wait until the beginning of next season to see the back of Slot and co?! 
Itâs not my intention to derail the discussion but I have to disagree with this, at least to a certain point. Itâs definitely cheaper, I canât argue with that, but you are very wrong if you think that foreign fans are less committed to the club just because they are unable to attend home matches.
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