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The NDP have started targeting Carney because they’ve seen their share collapse to the Liberals.

I grew up in Saskatchewan. The NDP was a machine. I can’t believe what a dumpster fire that party has become.

No, I understood that. I just would be surprised if he had that much in Brookfield controlled LPs, though I am sure he has some. He was not there that long, and the $4M equity in the GP is not that much in those circles.

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They have, and indeed they may be much better positioned to conduct the line of attack that you have been talking about than are the Conservatives. But Singh was going after Poilievre for the Cons attacking Carney’s kids last night.

Yeah, the NDP is a long way from Douglas’ ‘if you don’t like bankers, the government should not be in debt’ days.

On a tangential note, I would be surprised if Carney’s net worth is larger than Trudeau’s.

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This is the graph of the Leger poll just released, with prior versions.

I am hard pressed to think of a comparable shift. The polls moved a lot in 1993, but I would have to check to see if Campbell ever had a 20+ lead, and it definitely took more than 90 days. Pretty damned weird times when you hear a nationalist Quebec MLA using the phrase ‘notre roi’ in a radio interview.

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I think Trudeau mainly, yet the party have also screwed themselves. A lot of people in the center were willing to give him a chance, it went down hill quickly (after about a 4 year delay - time for policies to take effect). I think he was able to keep the party winning over several elections, and that is more to do with his persona rather than his ability to lead the country. I can not count how many people initially (women) voted due to his looks, and these were woman that I consider intelligent (and still do). In Canada the majority party has an enormous amount of power due to party members that religiously vote along party lines. My two cents.

I lived in Vancouver Center during that election. She was never that far ahead. But you could feel the whole vibe shift when the Tories put that Chretien ad out. It was arguably the worst political ad in history. I remember watching that ad for the first time and being in utter disbelief. The PCs went from winning maybe 50-60 seats to 2 IIRC.

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I’m not a fan but this is good. A legitimate complaint from the US is that we both don’t spend enough on defense, and certainly not enough on northern defense. Poilievre put a really good video about a month ago and the Liberals are agreeing. That’s good for the country.

https://x.com/markjcarney/status/1902086715009065401?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

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My recollection was there were a couple of outlier polls before the election and one around Labour Day showing a PC lead, but not a very large one. Tories were already in trouble before that ad (it was just a couple of weeks before election day), but after that I think there was no belief left in the campaign.

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The face ad?

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Hmmmm

https://x.com/mrsunshinebaby/status/1902163969328214227?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

There is a great deal of suspicion about this - this isn’t the first time the Trump White House has made a very obvious effort to provide Poilievre the opportunity to differentiate himself from Trump. It isn’t playing well. Smells like an effort to manipulate. The fact that it is being distributed through that particular channel just underscores that.

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It’s funny now to look at that ad.

It is bad, but in the years since we have seen so much worse. I never actually saw it live, but close. A friend of mine from the 1984 Mulroney campaign worked as a speechwriter during the Mulroney years, and was startled to find out I was working with the Liberal campaign (policy response group, basically running the numbers on announcements). We met for beers on at a place on Sparks Street. He saw the ad, I didn’t, because it was on the screen behind me. But he was horrified, knew then and there at first viewing that it was a catastrophic mistake. For him, he knew the campaign was over and it was job search time.

As I recall, the ad was running for less than 48 hours, and the rest of the campaign never aired.

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https://x.com/valdombre/status/1902038450808979607?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

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Housing starts are up, immigration way down, but it is going to take years to clear out that folly. Years in which rents in particular are going to be unsustainably high.

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Was the issue that they were making fun of his facial expressions?

If you’re going to have slogans, Canada First Conservatives is 100x better than Just Like Justin or Carbon Tax Carney.

And we absolutely have to ramp up mining.

https://x.com/pierrepoilievre/status/1902321905623036152?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

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I think Poilievre has shifted tack significantly this week. I still don’t think ‘Canada First’ is the right choice for the Conservatives, because it is Trump-adjacent. But definitely better than fighting the last election or attacking Carney for the carbon tax he just shut down. Pushing the mediocre performance of the Canadian economy since 2014 front and center is a much better play, even if it does risk highlighting how lightweight the Conservative policy deck really is - not as if the Liberals have great answers for it.

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