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Very good overview of what happened:
For those critical of SpaceX. Please watch this. If you want to fire a rocket up and throw it away, this was the groundwork that allows this to be done now easily and reliably. Remind you of anything?
4:20 is exactly what could have happened yesterday.
I’m critical of what continues on of the “space race” at the astronomical costs associated with it. 10,000,000lbs of propellant burned in 4minutes whilst we’re in the middle of a climate crisis and a humanitarian crisis in many parts of the globe where people are struggling to put a roof over their heads and food on the table. Was watching a program on NatGeo just last week about how the warming of the planet is literally driving larger and larger storms through the sub-tropics and it will only get worse.
It’s a fucking joke, really. The tone-deafness of the whole situation is appalling, TBH.
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100% this.
It takes a special kind of fucknut to contribute massively to destroying a planet that is literally perfect for us, in order to pursue an impossible dream of colonising somewhere else.
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As a matter of interest, if an extinction level lump of rock turns up on a collision course in 3 years time and starship (multiple) deflect it. Will you still hate Musk?
The dinosaurs don’t exist because they never had a space race.
I do believe he isn’t working on a plan for that. But wait, I do believe there was someone who has been testing possible scenarios, some still theoretical and some actually in real application. Who could that be,… oh, wait, wasn’t that NASA??
It’s one of the things Starship can do. Nasa’s project to redirect (DART) was decades in design and construction aimed at a known target with predictable results. You’ll note it was launched by SpaceX. What if we only have a few months’/ weeks’ notice? NASA needs a year to do the paperwork.
Isn’t that what proof of concept is for? You were all about testing a few posts ago.
I am. SpaceX does it in real time, NASA is still stuck in the 60s in terms of launch infrastructure. They should stick to JWST level projects and leave the lifting to Musk. And cancel SLS because it’s a colossal white elephant.
But let’s face it, us English should never have crossed the channel let alone the Atlantic. Exploration is a very bad thing. Granted the indigenous peoples of North American might agree.
Now you’re just gaslighting bud. You’ve moved the goal posts a few times and now you’re hinting that I’m saying that I’m against.
exploration. Have a word. Debate, argue, cajole, swear and insult if you must but do it in good faith, or not at all.
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Is there a good faith? Pretty sure some religions tell us to kill people.
I’m not moving anything. Just covering all the bases of supporting SpaceX. There are lots, takes a while.
Would you disagree that NASA’s launch infrastructure is stuck in the 60’s? OK, maybe the 70’s. That’s still 50 years old.
Yes you have. You went from rockets to Mars to extinction level events all in the name of fanboying our intrepid Mr Musk. You call that covering the bases, it’s moving the goal posts is all it is. Now, they’ve made some tremendous breakthroughs, no doubt and NASA is using them, agreed, but there is certainly a debate to be had about how the money he’s been getting to do these things could have been routed to NASA and the effect the lack of funding has had on them and with so many projects and interplanetary research missions planned or mooted they had to do the ones they could and shelve the ones the couldn’t while using the tech they had. Now it might be that they could have done more, I don’t know for sure but then neither do you and derision in the face of some spectacular achievements, real failures and no lack of human sacrifice is pretty shit just to lick the arse of our erstwhile Mr Musk.
Rockets are unavoidable, they are a genuine need to leave the atmosphere and reusable rockets are great, big rockets with bigger payloads that are reusable, great as well but there is limit to payload vs weight vs fuel (which has its own connection to the weight). Then there is the obsession with Mars, how it’s viewed as viable planet for habitation and for exploring further on and there are valid points to be made for both but rockets, and Mars, should be just a means to an end but in many quarters, its seen as being the saviour of our species. Note I say species, and not planet because that’s not seemingly in anyone’s vocabulary despite the fact that the expiry date of this rock is at least 500 million years from now. But woohoo, big rockets contributing to damage to the planet is great, as long as we get to Mars.
There does not seem to be a clear vision beyond that, it’s all for show.
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In your qualified opinion.
Guess what. a private business can take government money and do wonders with it, who knew. Yes that money could have gone to NASA but can you wait another 5 years for the DART mission to be launched by NASA? Would be a ride share on SLS 3 or whatever. But they don’t have that in their architecture so hello ULA (waiting on Jeff Bozo) or Arianna 6 which hasn’t flown yet.
Want a mathematical analysis of that launch vs a day’s planes? Doubt it.
I’m a massive fan. I don’t identify as a boy though so pretty sure you’re guilty of something far more heinous.
Waste it without much overview, you mean. So throw enough at it until something sticks coz it not yours and voila, wonders abound. You being a massive fan of the Musk does not surprise me, regardless of the actual person he is. After all, the history of your posts on here are sometimes rather disturbing in your views. A definite right lean, or perhaps not just a lean. Not sure what you meant by your last post but fanboy is a definite term, so rather bemused about my supposedly being guilty of something heinous. Just weird, mate.
Anyhow, personal differences aside, there are definite pros to SpaceX as you will find I have acknowledged above just as you will note that I have taken care to provide The Great Elon with some due as to his ability to get people in place to do what they do although but for me, that’s as far as I can stomach crediting him. You wilfully overlook the advances and trial and error made by agencies like NASA along with the real human sacrifice across the last 50-60 years and disparage it almost out of hand in favour of grandstanding this guy.
We can argue between us and there are merits and errors to be in either stance however I think you are unwilling, or simply unable, to move on from an entrenched position, even in the slightest and there is no good reason to be found in such a stance.
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Spacex get paid to put government payloads into orbit. How the fuck is this wastage?
Well I’m very glad I’m disturbing someone. No point otherwise.
He does it, doesn’t mean it couldn’t have been done cheaper or more efficiently, no? Is there an overview process to control spending or is it, ‘fuck that wrench, I need a new one.’