The Space Thread

That’s going to be one hell of a firework display. It also played out millions (billions) of years ago which is always mind bending.

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I think something is lost in translation there. I believe Newtons’ law is that physical mass in space creates gravitational pull (aka gravity). The larger the mass, the greater the pull. The strength of the pull is inversely proportionate to the distance between two masses.

Hence, why gravity is stronger at the surface of the earth than at a distance in space.

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it’s possible that’s just an optical illusion and that those two galaxies are actually a huge distance apart. But from our absolutely miniscule angle of viewing, we have zero depth perception to observe their actual distance

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Yes you’re right. My point is that Newton’s laws break down in certain instances. Einstein’s General relativity takes Newton further and basically work better across a wider spectrum. As you probably know Newton proved that mass created a gravitational force. Taking it further Einstein said that mass bends the fabric of space and objects basically fall.

But General Relativity is incomplete it doesn’t work at the quantum level. It completely breaks down. So our challenge is to develop the next theory that surpasses Einstein and cracks the code of quantum gravity.

As Einstein theory breaks down to Newton, I suspect a theory of Quantum Gravity will breakdown to Einstein’s theory when looking at the larger scales. Basically it is building levels of accuracy.

Captain Kirk to space and back. He gave a really good description on the launch into space…like a blue sheet being ripped away into darkness, and is that death.

Was he in the space dick?

Yup, Bill Shatner was in Blue Origin Space Dick earlier today. Returned safely.

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The age old argument…

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@Herb just beat me to it. :+1:
I read this article on the same observation, it also contains the link to the full pre-print before full publication.

I think we’ve disagreed on this before and I’ll leave it at that.

With regards to William, I wonder if this is a charm offensive to dove tail onto his fathers interests and increase/enhance his own public persona?

No confusion. I understood that your comment about being a hypocrite was directed to William but I was referencing (with the first sentence) a previous conversation between us up thread where my position was pro-exploration prior to solving all issues here on Earth.

I think it has its place but when it’s basically a willy measuring contest then I’d have to question it.

It’s ability to drive technology forward is both important and essential I think.

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Hard to think of anything new that’s come out of space exploration in this century, other than the rocket which lands itself to be later re-used. That was a major cost reducer. But yeah, another playground for the very wealthy to expend resources better directed elsewhere, though kind of a drop in the bucket when measured against other, more harmful expenditures of resources, like the billions of people waiting on their made-in-China junk to arrive via Amazon.

Hell of a difference between the JWST and Blue Pointless / Virgin building fairground rides. This is very good if you’re interested in engine design although till we’re using faster than light, pretty much irrelevant.

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If absolutely backed into a corner, I’m happy for us to solve poverty, inequality and climate changes before we go on to exploring space. The reason I’m pro-exploration now however, is that I just don’t think we will (solve any of those issues) because not that many people want them solved. Gretta was right to mock the world leaders.

Tell that to the Vikings and the Polynesians. They managed to get to far flung corners of the world w/o steam and any associated tech that we would consider a minimum. I think we can do quite a lot with the canoes we have now.

People are increasingly showing that they do indeed consider these issues important. There’s a reason why you are on first name terms with a Swedish climate activist.
We aren’t going to solve these problems. All we can do is alleviate the effects, but that is better use of resources than sending aging tv stars into space.
Of course it’s not as ‘sexy’ to fund research into sustainable energy, waste management or maintaining biodiversity, but these issues will impact our lives in much more meaningful ways than knowing whether Bill Shatner can survive weightlessness.

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In our solar system yes. We’re currently advancing canoe design in fractions of a %. Given the size and scale of the universe, we need to move up about 9000 gears.