Somewhat natural though, after all the effort and energy that goes into beating City, it isn’t a surprise to see a team slip up against a much weaker side. We’ve done it ourselves. It’s also that inconsistency that only us and City have really avoided in recent years.
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Happens so much that this might be plagiarism.
What a passive aggressive prick.
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Conte is a fruitcake.
Klopp aside, it makes you wonder if these so called super managers are really only as good as the chequebook. Fair chance of trophies at Juve, Inter or Chelsea.
Jose cannot do it at the next rung down clubs. Ancelotti likewise. Peps 3 clubs could give him who he wanted. Zidane had Ronaldo at his peak and just awaits PSG for the resume.
So is Conte really as good as everyone thought?
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I think those managers are still good. However, they are often a victim of their own temperament. There is also a question about whether they can evolve. I don’t know if Mourinho’s sides ever play differently to each other. Klopp got a lot of flack towards the end of his time at Dortmund for being a one trick pony that had been found out - but you can see from his time at Liverpool that is simply untrue and the team has constantly been tweaked. Pep is similar.
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The answer is the chequebook for most of them, it’s an easy get out for much wider issues effectively it’s an easy get out.
I think there is a chasm between Klopp and say Conte mind. A lot of managers have a lifespan but you have remember how much Dortmund players fought for Klopp even after 7 years and with the start they had.
I think burnout is a thing with some managers that’s obvious with Mourinho but you also have to adapt. It was obvious for several years (even without the refs) that Ferguson was a figurehead you have to have quality in your team and Klopp’s recent mentions of his staff show a man still listening and learning and trusting.
Maybe that’s it in the long run yes Klopp has had people around him for a while but he is willing to introduce fresh names and faces.
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At the level the PL is currently operating at you have to be perfect, lucky, and well-funded. I think Conte is a fantastic tactical manager. I also think the biggest reason you are seeing the “super-manager” tenures get shorter and shorter is because of the money. It takes time to build an ideology and to get players in that support that ideology. Spurs as an example, built an offensive team, with an offensive coach for years. Reached the literal top for them (losing to us in the CL final). Then somewhere the board said well we have a great offensive team, lets get a more pragmatic manager and that will shore up the back tactically but sitll have good offensive players. Obviously the flaws with that logic are why spurs are even more spursy.
On the other hand you look at Chelsea and despite their “offensive” shiny signings, the team is really set up to be defensively great. You get a defensive coach to replace fat frank and his no tactics offense gung ho style and all of a sudden you have a “title contender.”
I think managers like Conte and Jose fell into a trap of taking bad jobs. Jose thought United was going to be a project. Turned out to be more than just rebuilding a footballing identity. When your recruitment team and your managers’ philosophy don’t match it’s disasters waiting to happen.
And the last part @mattyhurst hit on above, I think Klopp and Pep have both learned how to prevent squad burnout. Right time to introduce fresh faces. Adding pieces that contribute more than just from a footballing perspective, and fundamentally not being afraid of change. Lot of the systemic failures from other clubs includes being afraid for the team to take a step back to go 3 forward and instead signing big names to shit contracts that do nothing but harm the overall football project over time.
I don’t believe money spent is simply the indicator of success or failure for managers at clubs.
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I dont think he got too much praise for his work at Juve. Those title were viewed more in the way a title at Bayern is…you have to fuck up to not win one. It wasnt until he went to Italy and got a historically poor group of players to be competitive that his stock rose. It was that rather than the wins at Juve that saw Chelsea go after him. With the praise he got for that it easy to forgot that they ONLY got to the QFs, but it’s easier to forget just how shit that group of players were and how little Italy expected especially after the 2014 debacle.
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He is a decent manager…. He is just a fucking shocking club
Looking forward to Contes incoming aneurysm during his post match interview
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He just gave the look of resigned acceptance.
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I think they could have a third manager, I know tactics Tim is available.
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No payday if he offers his resignation. He needs to wait on the plank for the push (into a barrel of cash).
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Don’t think Conte cares about the money, he wants to protect his reputation. He then1 manager who isn’t afraid to walk away.
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Ouch, the headline
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LOL
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I’d like to hear @WooltonRed’s opinion of this headline.
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If Conte walks he’s a coward.
Forget protecting his reputation, but rather build it by showing some guts, determination, strategy, clever purchases, teamwork etc - just like the great Klopp did.
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soft.
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