The Unreliable Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 4)

Take Reyes Cleary as an example. How can you tell what that lad is truly capable of while he is playing for Barnsley in League 1. A prem club would have little to lose by taking a punt on him…even us.

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Also playing in Virgil’s position.

They’re not over, but obviously it’s not easy to find and it’s more difficult to buy from a position we buy in today, than where we were in 2017.

There are two aspects, first, the business side of it. But then the player also has to prove it on the pitch, like Robbo did for a lot of years.

Things have to fall into place.

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I don’t think it is directly, but indirectly it does seem to be.

It started with the rise of Football Manager and couches/managers would often use it to look at alternative transfer options to what scouts would privide. This came to the point where Sports Interactive were an official partner at a number of clubs including them providing all scouting information to the partner clubs.

This has gone to the length of S.I. developing their own scouting tool - FMDB Pro which gives clubs a fairly comprehensive scouting database

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This I guess is why often times clubs are after the same player regardless of the system they play.

The access to databases is clearly a differentiation point with access likley being tiered, with richer clubs having full access and poorer ones less or none. In my line of work there are many of these cashes of data and a yearly licence can go upwards of 10 M Euros…

AI/LLMs are quite useful in a data rich environment but not so much otherwise and of course, the data input and questions asked are key. Even with the use of these tools, it always comes down to a human eye - which is often the most defining part of the process.

I would be more curious how this could be applied in the development of players at the youth level and predicting outcomes…

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That is 1 possibility, or it could be the level of information that different tiered clubs have access too. ie 2 clubs looking at the same player, tier 1 club has accress to the full player profile, but the other club is in a different tier level so can only access a % or the player profile depend ing what tier they have purchased

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Yes, Cleary looked very good against us. I doubt he’ll still be in League 1 next season.

If we can get him or Shlotterback would be great and get rid of Konate as he is getting on my nerves.g

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From strength we spent but maybe badly. You do not go from best run club to idiots in a year. Time to fix it.

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Are we ever going to see Harve Elliot back…or in the team…at least he knew how to run at a defending team…

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Rather him coming on to chiesa tbh.

If Harvey was coming back this year he’d have come back on Jan 1st. If Slot leaves in the summer I imagine Harvey is reintroduced at that point.

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Firstly, “AI” is mostly a scam.

Secondly, if you’re talking about the overhyped LLMs (think ChatGPT, Gemini, etc.) then it’s likely to be pretty useless.

However, the data modelling approach the club has been using for years is built similarly (in the abstract) to all that “AI” crap.

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Problem and I’ve said this before say with Cleary is we’ve seen one game. He’s at Barnsley and joined this summer but was one who went through WBA system and Walsall and Hartlepool have loaned him. We don’t really know what he is actually like. He has some talent but isn’t there a rumour we bought Downing off one game against us.

Whoever spotted Robbo was pretty good to be fair as the forum post welcoming him might be one of the most depressing ones I’ve ever read :joy:

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Like all new technologies, there are always spinoff scams. AI simplified, is a garbage in garbage out technology. Liverpool’s value in the market is the data gathering and selecting the correct data. The number crunching and learning part could easily be replicated through AI.

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Can’t agree with this. Hugo has been great, Wirtz probably our best player at the moment and i really like Frimpong. Isaks injury means we cant judge him so that leaves Kerkez, not great but not terrible. All in all we spent well apart from the CB we needed that fell through at the death. If anything our problems are more to do with our players from last year not playing to the standard we were used to.

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Well, at least to our credit, we did try a bit of emotional blackmail…

@_PaulJoyce](https://x.com/_pauljoyce)
: But it is clear Liverpool hoped Guéhi would recognise the efforts they had made to sign him before Palace co-owner and chairman Steve Parish pulled the plug on a deal on deadline day and, in turn, waited for them until the summer.

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Now Guehi has taken the shilling, which CB is the top candidate in most people’s eyes?
And which midfielder would people take if they could have their choice?

I really don’t know which CB but would love Elliot Anderson as a CM in place of Mac.

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I would like us to unearth more diamonds like Joel

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Wharton. Schlotterbeck. Yan Diomande.

Changes everything.