UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

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Fiddling while Rome burned whilst simultaneously letting them eat cake.

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UK and Australia in first post-Brexit trade deal - BBC News

Fucking Tim Tams incoming! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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That’ll learn ‘em.

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I hate to be a pedant*, but it’s the Witham and it’s only just recovering from a massive ammonia spill.

*actually love it

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Good news but it’s one of those where it’s hard to believe this isn’t already in place. I’m surprised those with Down’s syndrome aren’t already adequately protected by the Equality Act.

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Really astonishing. Looking at the definition of disability in the equalities act, it must surely cover Downs?

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Interesting opinion piece

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:see_no_evil:

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Ok, all previous suggestions that the Conservatives wanted to alternatively sell off or fuck over the NHS in some way have been bollocks, imo. Until now.

If she gets this job
wtaf.

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Wow.
Big result this.

The LibDem vote count is seismic. Big loss for the Conservatives and amazing abandonment of Labour.

2019 General Election vote count

  • Cheryl Gillan (Conservative): 30,850
  • Dan Gallagher (LibDem): 14,627
  • Matt Turmaine (Labour): 7,166
  • Alan Booth (Green): 3,042

Full by-election results 17 June 2021

  • Sarah Green (Liberal Democrat): 21,517 (+47%)
  • Peter Fleet (Conservative): 13,489 (-56%)
  • Carolyne Culver (Green Party): 1,480 (-51%)
  • Natasa Pantelic (Labour): 622 (-91%)
  • Alex Wilson (Reform UK): 414
  • Carla Gregory (Breakthrough Party): 197
  • Adrian Oliver (Freedom Alliance): 134
  • Brendan Donnelly (Rejoin EU): 101
  • Lib Dem majority: 8,028

Turnout: 52% (37,954)

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I’ve got a slightly different take. That’s looks to me a lot like a ‘just get the fucking Tory out’ vote. For Labour to sink from 7000 to 600 suggests mass tactical voting, rather than disillusionment. The Green’s also lost half their vote.

I’m as Labour as they come, but if I’d been voting in that by-election, I’d have voted Lib Dem, without hesitation.

I hope for the opposition parties this points to a way forward, and moves towards a sensible electoral alliance.

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Yes, that’s probably fair. Labour and the Greens lost just over 7,000 votes which is what the LibDems gained.

Turnout was a lot lower so perhaps ~16,000 who voted Conservative at the GE stayed at home?

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If only. It would be nice if common sense prevailed but I won’t be holding my breath.

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Is it possible that Labor voters didn’t bother to turn-up? There’s a significant gap in turnouts of the two elections.

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It really doesn’t imo it’s like the other by election (Hartlepool?) the numbers are indicating labour voters are just not turning out at byelections (that’s massive dissillusionment).
The end of the brexit fight and this particular tory government means people feel safe to show their discontent with the torys by switching to a tactical alternative (without it being Labour) particularly as the byelection doesn’t change a thing.

Labour have a real fight on their hands they need to show fight not intelligence they surely can not wait forever?

@Kopstar

Perhaps we could meet halfway? :wink:
Whatever Labour are in a big mess (even if this was an unwinnable seat for them).