I doubt that this guy murdered the mp with a goal in mind. It seems probable that he was a lost and vulnerable person who was easily influenced by propaganda. It’s not part of a campaign.
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Which is why those parties need to be more collaborative but it’s still important that voters to the left are properly represented.
Of course, a form of Proportional Representation would be preferable and avoid these issues to a certain degree but Labour were even split on that.
Shouldn’t we be avoiding such speculation?
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Yes, that’s why I couched my terms. The police say he was working alone.
that kind of leniency is noble, but leaves a gapping big hole for those that seek to disrupt society to walk through.
…in laymens terms, if he’s claiming he’s one of you, either dissassociate yourself with him by condeming the act, or accept them as one of you
It appears, he wasn’t as ‘vulnerable’ as David Amess, who is now lying on a mortuary table, while his killer still walks the earth (or back and forth in a cell) for the rest of his miserable life.
Apparently he was on some kind of government programme to help avoid people falling foul of extremist groups.
That raises a load of questions in my mind to be honest but I’m not sure its really the time / place.
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I’m not saying that it’s anything other than an outrageous and heinous crime. What I was questioning is the labelling of this individual as a terrorist.
He is clearly a cold blooded murderer.
Would it be fair to say that if they label it as a terrorist attack it opens the door to a wider investigation that includes possible outside influences?
An exercise in semantics I know.
That is why it is described on here as potential terrorism. People with terrorist intent may act alone, but commitment to the “cause” is the rationale for the act.
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This is something I came across and know even less about than my normal level of idiocy. I don’t know if this is a good or bad thing but given who is fronting it 
It depends on where the UK goes on this. The HRA is not without its problems but equally some things should be a thorn in the side of government.
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Listened to the tributes in the house today, had a tear in my eye. So sad.
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Gas lighting in plain site. I hope he gets asked to come back and retract those comments.
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I think some of the fears are overblown with this FTA.
Milk, lamb, meat, fish are all more expensive in New Zealand than they are in the UK. When New Zealand needs to import things price goes through the roof. Take something simple like tomatoes. In season will cost you about £2/kg. Out of season they cost £7/kg. That means you only have salads in summer because imported goods are too expensive.
The quality of the food is much better here, but food bills are about 30-50% higher. I don’t think the threat of NZ imports is that great. The biggest benefit I think will be be political alignment and closer ties. The ability of people under 35 to work in each other countries for 3 years. Thats a big plus for both countries. NZ has a dependence on China for trade (which inhibits its ability to be critical), this helps it diversity. This is a benefit to western countries.
I think its also important to note, NZ still has a close affiliation with the UK. The prime time news uses ITN for many of its stories. We see case numbers, petrol and foot shortages there. That perhaps says more about the lack of news in NZ 
. But NZ tends to look more towards the UK than say the US.
It shows in multiple ways. Covid is one of the most prominent. This week Ashly Bloomfield spoke about learning from the UK on 3 separate occasions. Copying the fast tracking of ICU nurses performed by the NHS. The close alignment of UK and NZ projections for disease progression with vaccines, and that we are copying treatments and drugs that the UK has utilised.
Closer ties is a good thing. Especially when you consider the mutual respect 
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