UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

“Unless we provide a safe route, we are complicit with the people smugglers”

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For me this is the wrong attitude from France.

If migrants/refugees have passed through multiple countries, and once they arrive in France they are prepared to risk their lives/spend what ever money they have with people smugglers. That is a humanitarian failure.

If you are in France, and prepare to gamble with your life. What does that say about France ? What does it say about the countries those refugees passed through ?

The EU is facing a migrant crisis on all boarders. Russia/Belarus, Turkey/Syria, Libya/Morocco. Do the French see Poland as protecting France ? Or Greece, or Italy ?

The UK has a moral responsibility (which to be clear it is failing). There should be no need for a single person to risk their life when in a safe country. The reality that so many are has lead to a lot of finger pointing. For me everyone (leaders in all countries) need to look in the mirror.

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The EU, the UK, the US and all developed western countries are failing in this regard and they need to put aside petty squabbles and come up with a fair and coherent policy to deal with this issue. It’s not going to go away if you build bigger walls or send out more patrol boats. With wars, climate change and the gross inequalities of this world, this problem is only going to worsen. It’s time someone showed some leadership.

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It’s an ongoing election campaign in France and that’s why the topic is so polarized. Unfortunately I couldn’t find another article, so for once it will be daily mail, sorry.

As long as there is no legal way for these refugees to legally apply for asylum outside of the UK , they will keep trying. It would be in everyone’s interest to change something.

There’s a load I still need to understand about the whole issue but in simple terms a safe form of passage needs to be provided. The only sticking point is where are people’s applications processed. Neither France or the UK will want that to happen on their own shores.

Sadly I fear the UK government simply wants to lock everyone out.

Just like with climate change and the covid crisis, we need grown up adult coordinated international action.
Enough of this bullshit nationalist point scoring. It’s pathetic and people are dying.

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People here are starting to catch up, it seems.

We really want to talk to the UK about this but no they can’t come to the meeting arranged to talk about it :rofl: :clown_face:

On top of that ‘they’ refuse to dialogue via twitter, I mean what a great platform to discuss serious matters! :rofl:

Somewhere along the line whether Macron likes it or not, if France want to address the situation on their beaches they will need to talk to the UK government. A horrible thought I concede and likely to require a lot of headache tablets but unless that happens then nothing will change. Lets also be honest that doing nothing also suits the current UK government as well.

Let’s be clear here, just because someones invitation was revoked doesn’t mean there are no talks. This is a diplomatic incident nothing more. Now let’s be serious and grown up.

Always loved Spitting Image as a kid, still on point:

Come On What GIF by MOODMAN

How many times are you going to post that? :joy:

Daily?

The Royal Navy. Projecting the power of Global Britain.

Shit.
Any chance we can do that again?

This is almost comical. Capital adequacy tests for a sector bleeding capital due to incompetent market design, administered by the regulator that designed the market. It is essentially a final nail in the coffin for any of them struggling, which is quite possibly all of them except the Big Six.

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20 suppliers going under is crazy. What’s crazy about it is the number of suppliers.
These are essentially shops that have the advantage over shops in that there’s a standing charge. (mentionned standing charge is 2/3rds of my bill). It is mind boggling how this happened, at least to me but I still reckon that the model is completely flawed. High street shops and even supermarkets go bust are taken over all the time, why did anyone think this model could work for energy?
Serves the whole lot right in a way.

I don’t think there is a market design that works which can incorporate the idea that consumers will pay less than the cost of their consumed energy for any significant period, unless the public purse is subsidizing it. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the energy retailer model, it has flaws, but so does any other option. But the UK version is collapsing because it is aiming for two contradictory objectives (insulating consumers from volatility, while getting them lowest possible prices during supply market fluctuations)

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