UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

From then BBC his statement includes.

not his intention" to say anti-Jewish racism should be tolerated, and that he regretted the “pain” caused.

His statement added: "To be clear, concerns about anti-Semitism are neither ‘exaggerated’ nor ‘overstated’.

Sounds very different to what he said when the EHRC report was issued to me but not that it matters he’s still not a Labour MP in Westminster.

As a side note it’s interesting that he want’s the whip now, when he has a pretty long record of voting against it.

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Funny the attention on Labour…

Whilst in the background…

So £12billion wasted on PPE at inflated prices, we now have £100bil.

Massive debts around our childrens necks, the Torys have out done themselves now, profiteering during a pandemic a new low.

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and a bit more on the PPE “contracts for mates” shite

But you know, no magic money tree for £5mil to keep Manchesters Furloughed employees @ 80% like the rest of the country…

Fucking horrible Tory cunts.

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And the big question is still what can we do about it? How do we put these people in jail (that’s where they should be IMO)

Also I would also be seriously looking at all these PPE suppliers and taking them to task legally on all the missing PPE, substandard PPE and whatever else they screwed up. Unless the contracts were written so poorly they have not fulfilled the terms of their contract I would have thought.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9aACBMSEg

It is obscene what is happening with BoJo’s Boys Club Government…!

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Don’t you have any independent anti corruption authority???

All of those rules were suspended due to emergency measures. Same happened here, but our governing party are rank amateurs by comparison. A million here and there to middlemen, etc., but nothing on the scale of what we are seeing in the UK, like American jewelry designers making 10s of millions for supplying inappropriate PPE.

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And still a hefty proportion of the UK population will think it’s “all fine, no problems”

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Yes we do.
Sadly he left the building on Monday.

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Actually I can’t. I don’t have a fucking clue. :rofl:

I think to expel him the they would have to show that Corbyn is guilty of antisemitic behaviour, which he obviously wasn’t. If anything, he’s guilty of undermining the leadership.

What’s happened to Corbyn, is basically what I thought would happen. He was always going to be let back in, although I’m surprised how long it’s taken. I suppose that’s those streamlined processes we’ve heard about.

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I’ve read that. I don’t agree. It is presented without proper context and so it is easy to present it as a u-turn, while not actually being one. As you have pointed out, he hasn’t apologised, either for the findings of the report, or his comments following its publication.

In his first statement he says “One anti-semite is one too many" . That fits in with your first quote about not tolerating anti-semitism. Nothing new there.

In regards to your second quote, much of the argument on this issue has been about what does and doesn’t constitute anti-semitism. In his first statement it’s the scale he refers to as being overstated, and of it being weaponized. Despite also acknowledging that anti-semitism exists within the party and one case being one case too many.

In regards to the recommendations in his first statement he said that he disagreed with some of them, but that they should be implemented. In his second statement he says Starmer is right to implement them. He hasn’t said that he now agrees with all of them.

To me, it reads like someone has taken his first statement. Taken a pen and crossed out most of the words in it, presenting the remaining ones as the second statement.

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No problem. I dont really want to argue the finer points of his statement which in reality still glosses over the main problem - the problem of anti Semitism exists within the Labour party and he didn’t really do anything to tackle it. In fact he probably let it grow into more than it should have been.

I guess my main thing is that despite him standing on many a sound principle and policy he doesn’t really do much about it. It’s at such a level that I honestly question whether he believes it himself.

He has sunken a long way in my opinion of him as a politician and person to be honest.

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I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I’d highlight Gavin Williamson as an example of how difficult it is to be sacked in this government. Cummings leaving is a massive surprise and Pritti Patel is still there as well

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The fact that Chris Grayling and Liz Truss continue to be given things to do is fucking absurd. But those two and the ones you mention (plus many others), their failings are largely about competence. Had they said something discriminatory I’d expect they would be sacked.

Cummings leaving shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone though, he said he’d be leaving at the end of the year in January or February I think.

Equally, I’m aware of the allegations of Islamophobia in the Conservative Party. Have there also been allegations of antisemitism?

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I dont think Cummings did intend to leave when he did. His comments earlier in the year came off the back of criticism he was facing because of his influence. Since then he had started taking control of a number of long term projects.

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Not to my knowledge, no. I just don’t think anyone in that inner circle is sackable, no matter what they do. The racist side hasn’t been tested yet I agree but I do feel they’re walking some really thin lines with the English superiority trope they fall into every now and then. Only today Boris was warned for renaming the SNP.

I didn’t know Cummings was planning to leave, I think it is a huge shame that he wont be in post when Brexit happens. He’s been a big part of it after all. Nothing would please me more than this self called genius being revealed as a think cunt.

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Talking of Chris Grayling :rofl:

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:man_facepalming:
I’ve said it for some time but that cunt needs to be put in charge of making sure as many people are infected with coronavirus as possible.

What was it that Bercow said about Grayling? Oh yeah,

“He is congenitally incapable of seeing a problem without making it very considerably worse.”

Bercow is a prick but he’s spot on here.

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When a government is so corrupt, loyalty is more important than competence. That’s why many Tories are still in a job.

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I think you’re all misunderstanding the role of government.

The Government is a collection of people for whom the objective of government is not to govern, but to create favourable circumstances for themselves to earn phenomenal amounts of money when they leave. Government is just a stepping stone.

They don’t see themselves as answerable to us. We think they are corrupt and incompetent but they don’t care because we are not their constituency. Their constituency is the network of corporate interests who will look after them for the rest of their lives.

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