Posted this before but still find it shatteringly scary. A guy on 5 Live (phone in) justified BREXIT because we could then send all the Indians and Pakistanis home. I kid you not.
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Hence the “If true” opening.
100% agree. It’s almost as if the two processes (withdrawal agreement and future relationship) shouldn’t have been seperated.
And it’s exactly the same mistaken assumption many other Remain voters have made constantly for the last four years. Not exactly winning hearts and minds with it either.
He should have voted to Remain then.
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And I suppose that your repeated assumption that all Brexiteers had the most noble of intentions isn’t mistaken?
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And there it is, Brexit Britain in a telephone call on a radio show.
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It would be mistaken if it’s a generalisation that I have ever made. But I haven’t.
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Here’s one issue that utterly fuddles my brain but at the same time demonstrates the level of madness that exists in government.
Brexit at its fundamental level is about building borders / barriers. This government has not yet really started in putting together the necessary infrastructure required to manage those borders. That is either incompetence on a grand scale or they were so utterly stupid they didn’t realise that it would be needed.
you can argue all you want about the EU not negotiating in good faith but when they are clearly dealing with a bunch of clowns that probably don’t actually understand what they’re trying to deal with then I have my doubts about that statement to be honest.
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Well actually you have. Repeatedly.
I’ll see if I can still access the old TIA Brexit thread when I have time.
Edit: just had a look and it appears the old TIA forums are no longer accessible. 
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It’s possible for both to be true though.
As for borders, the Conservatives have surrounded nearly the whole country in water. Some achievement, huh?
It’s just the border on the island of Ireland that’s a tricky one and we’ll leave that to the EU. They’re the ones who want one there…
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By all means. Quote away. I’m very careful not to make generalisations like that.
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Well, it’s saved you a long and ultimately fruitless search.
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Hmmmm… 
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You understand what the word “many” means, right?
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it is I agree but something tells me the UK’s position has constantly been changing as they slowly begin to realise what they’re trying to deliver. Either that and they’ve been asking for the impossible and know it.
Fair play to them for managing to fill up the channel. No doubt they used Welsh water for that which is yet another example of them ripping off our little nation. Sadly though, not even Welsh water can actually manage to check the contents of a lorry before it enters the UK or vice versa.
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Fucking hell. It means several, more than a few. It specifically does not mean ALL nor even a majority.
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Thanks. 
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That’s really weird. If you read that as just one statement it is all presented as joined up but when you break it down…
Yeadon was a director of Ziarco between 2012 and March 2016. In the last two years when he was Director the government made a grant to Ziarco of £1.7m.
That’s it about Yeadon. It then goes on to talk about someone else, Phil Smith. It says that in 2017 Phil Smith was chair of the board responsible for the grants made between 3 and 1 year previously to Ziarco. It says that at that time Smith was appointed co-chair on another board with Matt Hancock. Hancock has since left that position and his new co-chair is Warman, who once worked for the Telegraph.
That’s incredibly convoluted and tenuous. Is that supposed to be evidence that Yeadon is in bed with Hancock and Warman despite that history not showing a direct link with either of them? And that Hancock and Warman are anti-science in some way?
This “appears to be” (the cover your arse wording they’ve gone with) someone simply trying to make a case that Yeadon might know people because one person he may know, has worked with two other people and this is now “a cross-section” of “disgruntled conservatives” who may or may not be covid-sceptics of some sort. And this is supposed to be evidence that he has longstanding ties to the Conservative-led UK Government and impugns his independence?
Is there more to support those claims? There should be more. I hope there’s more. Surely there’s more?
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I wonder of this has any relation to the Everton Stadium deal…
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The Echo understands that he’s been arrested “on suspicion of conspiracy to commit bribery and witness intimidation” 
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Not sure that is quite where they want it…
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