UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

the clothes give some of them away.

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Yes, but the UK didn’t want that anymore. I don’t think you can blame the EU, but that is my view. EU now is forced to protect its interests as a block, forced by the UK I might add.

Anyway, got to run.

Do take care, you and everyone else ! :slight_smile:

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I blame Cambridge Analytica.

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Could you provide some source material? Is there some case or precedent for this statement that has opened up the door to target FOM laws? Given there are several amendments over the years to continually realign EEA and EU FOM, I would find it hard to believe any EEA country could unilaterally roll back one of the 4 pillars.

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It’s not rolling back, it’s simply keeping it as it was. First the ECJ then the EU widened the interpretation of this one of the original (EEC) 4 pillars. Widened it for the EU, not the EEA.

The NON-EU EEA states are under no obligation to adopt that widened interpretation under the provisions of the EEA agreement and under the jurisdiction of the EFTA Court.

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Canada-UK trade continuity agreement probably won’t be implemented in time for the year end, which is going to annoy businesses. Liberal House Leader appears not to have realized the needed timeline, and has not used unanimous consent rules to fast track it. Tomorrow is the last sitting day of the year, not sure what the hell they were thinking the process would look like for a bill introduced yesterday.

Looks particularly stupid given the Minister’s political staff were briefing the ‘bandwidth’ complaints about the UK that the negotiation staff were making behind closed doors.

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I found this which may help. Section 4 particularly the sections on efta membership and the citizen rights directive.

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Thanks for the link. But I think you need to factor in how the EFTA court interprets and rules on the Divergence of FOM in respect to the Citizens Rights Directive. Take Jabbi 2016, Campbell 2020 for instance. The court ruled that European Citizenship Directive 2004/38 could be interpreted as affording residence rights (whether economically active or inactive) which are the same as those afforded by Article 21 TFEU in the EU. Both of those rulings have been very controversial but help to demonstrate just how closely tied the EFTA courts and the CJEU are.

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It’s not a fear for me, it’s a reality. I see it every day and its enormously frustrating. That is predominantly not down to the EU but mostly our next door neighbors. That plus a good dose of us not helping ourselves.

it’s hugely frustrating and quite infuriating what you see at times.

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It’s looking increasingly likely that Bozo has failed to deliver the “easiest trade deal in history”.

European leaders - including France’s Emmanuel Macron and Germany’s Angela Merkel - have been told the EU is unlikely to get a trade deal with the UK by Sunday’s deadline.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told the bloc’s 27 leaders talks were “difficult”.

Time is running out to reach an agreement before the UK stops following EU trade rules on 31 December.

UK PM Boris Johnson says there is a “strong possibility” of no deal.

Weeks of intensive talks between officials have failed to overcome obstacles in key areas, including competition rules and fishing rights.

Easing the Covid restrictions for Christmas starts to make sense. It could be the last one we’ll enjoy for a decade or three. :thinking:

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Who said that mate “easiest trade deal” ?

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I didn’t know who said it, but Google search is your friend. It was Liam Fox.

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Liam Fox; Secretary of State for International Trade; 2016 - 2019

Coming to a free trade agreement with the EU should be “one of the easiest in human history” because our rules and laws are already the same, the international trade secretary has said.

Liam Fox is to set out his vision of the UK’s trading relationship with the rest of the world after Brexit.

“The only reason we wouldn’t come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics,” Dr Fox told the Today programme.

And there you have it, “politics gets in the way of economics” ergo, no deal.

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Stop with the good news, would ya?!?!?

Ps. What happened to the minions?

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I dont have it on this laptop, I’ll have to find it online or another suitable minion pic to replace it with.

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