UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

They keep dancing around the fundamental problem. Energy is expensive, and it is to a great degree a commodity. The UK right now needs more energy than it wants to pay for - you can nationalize distribution, but in the end all that does is make the state responsible for the sector that has been spinning off bankruptcies on a regular basis.

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This, in a nutshell, sums up the rot at the core of British society.

Until the core issues of superior/inferior class and hereditary entitlement are addressed, everything else is just pissing in the wind.

ā€œWe have paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and god-like technology.ā€ ā€” E.O Wilson

The first thing to address is the medieval institutions. You cannot have true democracy whilst ā€œleadersā€ are selected on the basis that someone impregnated a woman 500 years ago and this fact bestows rights and advantages on them.

It is impossible to engage in a democracy that supports this system.

There are alternatives.

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This is what Iā€™ve been saying about Starmer here. No one knows what he stands for, what his values are, other than wanting to be in power

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Could you summarise?

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https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1552548996249436160?s=20&t=mnmkkgklKaG4B8QktukWmw
https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1552549378157592583?s=20&t=mnmkkgklKaG4B8QktukWmw
https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1552549645343248386?s=20&t=mnmkkgklKaG4B8QktukWmw

:see_no_evil:

Interesting what the article says about Rachel Reeves subsequently. Seems like renationalisation of railways is still on Labourā€™s agenda.

@odin_telamon you may be interested in thatā€¦

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Not often Diane Abbott says something I agree with, bit she is right here and fair play to her .

Starmer to me is about as interested in the working class as Boris is about honesty, and itā€™s madness to say that if an election was called tomorrow given all the bs weā€™ve seen from this current government that labour under Starmer won win.

Whatā€™s even worse is that I cannot even say heā€™d win them an election against the other two Muppets hoping to take over from Boris.

Ps , cheers red :+1:

Labour is 10pts+ ahead in the polls, a lead it has rarely had previously. Head to Head Starmer is polling well in front of both Sunak and Truss.

I think most of us are covering our eyes and blocking our ears. ā€œLalalala not happening. Itā€™s summer so summer holsā€. But when that first bill rolls in from October, I think itā€™s going to suddenly be a massive deal for most of us.

I donā€™t think Iā€™ve heard anyone talking about what is about to happen. I know people who live with a maxed credit card for most of their life, thousands of pounds spent on vacations for the summer holidays and I genuinely expect this to break them. No-one I know is saving for this, or preparing for this.

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Hmm interesting, but from now until the election thatā€™ll change and the usual suspects will dig up the dirt where they can, but more to the point I think what Starmer did here was worse than anything thrown at Corbyn , call him a communist , attack his free internet for everyone policy (remember reading comments section in DM, reader demanding itā€™s his choice to pay for which ever service provider he wanted :joy:).

But seriously a lot of people who will be struggling (especially after seeing that Martin Lewis video you posted ) will see that Starmer is nothing but a wolf in sheepā€™s clothing, genuinely comes across to me as another Blair , and thatā€™s not what the country needsā€¦Corbyn or Burnham would be an ideal labour party leader right now imo .

The Tories are a shit show , best time is now for labour to admit they are too, get rid of Starmer and get a proper leader who will at least offer a real alternative to the zombies that the Tories are offering, do it now and by time the election is due they will have a real chance to connect to the working class again, as it is they are shite .

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And this is why I donā€™t agree with Lynch a bit further up about Starmer announcing wage increases for the poor. Keep your head down, donā€™t draw attention to yourself especially around wage increases which somehow will need to be costed unless you are begging for criticism. There will be a time to cut out the rot. And that is still two years away.

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Iā€™ve been invited to a husting with Sunak on Sunday near where I live. Hmmā€¦

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