UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

Away End - General Chat
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What is the financial impact on the government for the announced changes as part of the mini-budget?

Im seeing at least the following:

Removal of the 45% top rate = £6.6B
Cut to business and employee NIC = £9.2B each
1% basic rate of tax = £5B
Cut to 19% for corporation tax = £15B

That would be the £45B tax cuts

Then we have the £12B health and social care levy which isn’t being introduced, and £1.4B in stamp duty changes, and a host of smaller changes but can’t find financial figures on them…

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Pressed on whether the party was now close to Tony Blair than Mr Corbyn, Sir Keir said: ‘I certainly hope so because Tony Blair won three elections and I want us to win the next election.’

He added: ‘We are firmly on the centre ground, common sense politics, practical answers to the challenges the country faces.’

Get ready for Murdoch owned labour yet again.

Labour is dead, the line of Blair winning three elections is all it is about to them.

Which imo is basically just more of Tory lite ,

4061

Do you look at the policies set forth in the conference and think that he’s more of the same of Blair?

I thought the energy policy was quite sensible, as was the policy on transport.

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4062

Under the current electoral system there are two options in the UK - The Tories or a ‘moderate’ Labour party. It’s a bad system, but that’s how it stands.
Tory light is still better than Tory dark.

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4063

Tbh it’s all show and soundbites , Blair did all this and ended up being a snake, and sorry but I get the same vibes from Starmer, just can’t think he’s more of the same.

Would actually like a politician who didn’t really give a damn about spin and looking meticulous, say what you like about Corbyn, but even in a brand new suit he still looked scruffy😂

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4064

Yeah I guess but when you get in bed with Murdoch you lose all credibility when claiming to be a party that represents working class people.

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You’d love our local MP though. In the words of Blackadder, “Mr Baldrick might look like a monkey who’s been put into a suit and strategically shaved”

I’d love to do PMQs. I’d just be utterly honest. Would absolutely flummox the leader of the opposition (who I obviously wouldn’t be). Yeah. we got that one wrong so we’re doing XYZ about it. Next?

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…and yet, it’s the working class who read his papers. It’s a strange paradox.

4067

I do, but only recently. :wink:

Moved to NZ late 2019

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4068

Here’s a list of News Corp’s holdings. It would be pretty difficult for anyone in public life to totally boycott all of them:

Publishing

News Corp. holdings including three national newspapers in the U.K.; almost 150 publications in Australia; the New York Post and Community Newspaper Group in the United States; The Wall Street Journal and related publications in the U.S., Europe and Asia; Dow Jones information services;

HarperCollins book publishers. The list includes:

Daily Telegraph; Dow Jones; Harper Collins Publishers; Herald Sun; Inside Out; New York Post; News International; NT News; Post-Courier; Sunday Herald Sun; Sunday Mail; Sunday Times; The Advertiser; The Australian; The Courier-Mail; The Daily; The Mercury; The Sunday Mail; The Sunday Telegraph; The Sun; The Sunday Times; The Times; Times Literary Supplement; The Wall Street Journal; The Wall Street Journal Digital Network; Weekly Times; Zondervan.

Broadcasting

Businesses include the FOX Broadcasting Company; the 27 stations in the Fox Television Stations group and various television operations throughout the world. Cable properties produce and license programming for cable and satellite platforms in the U.S and Asia, including the FOX News Channel and FOX Business Network, FX and STAR. News Corporation wholly owns Italy’s most popular pay-TV company, SKY Italia. The company also has significant holdings in British Sky Broadcasting, Germany’s Sky Deutschland; Asia’s TATA SKY and FOXTEL in Australia and New Zealand.

The list includes:

FOX Broadcasting Company; FOX Sports; FOX Sports Australia; FOX Television Stations; MyNetworkTV; Big Ten Network; FOX Business Network; FOX Movie Channel; FOX News Channel; FOX College Sports; FOX Sports Enterprises; FOX Deportes; FOX Sports Net; FOX Soccer Channel; Fuel TV; FX; Nat Geo Wild; National Geographic Channel United States; National Geographic Channel Worldwide; Speed; STAR; Stats, Inc.; BSkyB; FOXTEL; Sky Deutschland; SKY Italia.

Movie and television production and distribution

Move production and distribution through Fox Filmed Entertainment and Twentieth Century Fox Film. Television production includes 20th Century Fox Television and other TV studios.

The list includes:

20th Century Fox; 20th Century Fox Espanol; 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment; 20th Century Fox International; 20th Century Fox Television; Fox Searchlight Pictures; Fox Studios Australia; Fox Studios LA; Fox Television Studios; Blue Sky Studios; Shine Group.

Other assets

“Next generation” media properties including Hulu, an online video joint venture with NBC Universal and Disney; and News Outdoor, an outdoor advertising company.

The list includes:

American Idol.com; AskMen; careerone.com.au; CARSguide.com.au; Fox.com; FoxSports.com; FoxSports.com.au; hulu.com; IGN Entertainment; Milkround; National Rugby League; NDS; News.com.au; News Digital Media; News Outdoor; Scout; Spring Widgets; truelocal.com.au; WhatIfSport.

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4069

Is that still the case? I thought it was completely bought out by Comcast?

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Agree it is, but this something that we as a general public have allowed, one man to obtain so much power that basically controls the flow of opinion, and our politicians rather than look at ways to stop this have allowed the cunt to control the narrative.

I mean an image of Ed eating a burger cost him an election …policies etc could have been the best ever but sorry Ed you can’t eat a bloody burger so we’ll run a story on that because we don’t want you in power.

Crazy .

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That certainly didn’t help , but I think it probably had more to do with the way he was parachuted into the leadership , and the debt he owed his union backers for it , that preyed more on voters’ minds.

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This guy doesn’t even understand it is not the tax cuts. No one globally really cares. Just tell us how you are going to pay them with something other than unicorn farts.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1575031201240272896?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1575031201240272896|twgr^2adab64064ef7ddd0cea945e251926765da8e26d|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fbusiness%2Flive%2F2022%2Fsep%2F28%2Fsterling-slumps-imf-urges-uk-reconsider-tax-cuts-stinging-attack-business-live%3FfilterKeyEvents%3Dfalsepage%3Dwith3Ablock-633413ef8f08ef7e8107bc5f

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I personally think it was more that he stood on the Scottish independence platform with David Cameron, the two of them working together. That was a gift to the SNP, and cost Labour all their Scottish seats. Something, if I’m honest, Labour have never recovered from.

The bacon sandwich thing was ridiculous, and especially annoying since not long after Cameron was photographed eating a hot dog with a knife and fork - to absolutely no press ridicule.

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4074

Probably would have been if he had his butler cut it up for him

4075

And he stuck his dick in a pig

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4076

Bit harsh on Samantha Cameron :sweat_smile:

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4077

Shame it wasn’t one of those robot pigs…

4078

Reads like a headline on The Onion.

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