UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

Essentially Starmer has some sense of Realpolitik which a successful party leader needs. It’s not pleasant, just necessary.

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Listen, I agree with your point, and the general point that Starmer, in playing a rigged game, must do everything in his power to even the game a little if he stands a chance, and that includes having involvement in the Scum, but I do wonder what you and I would be saying if the shoe were on the other foot.

If we were back in the olden days…you know…when the Conservative leader was expected to be a respected member of parliament, we would at the very least give a raised eyebrow if the political leader we oppose wrote for the Scum, whether they needed the votes that such a readership could bring or not. So I don’t see a problem with people - Liverpool fans of all people - being disgusted with Starmer doing that. I myself need a wash after reading it (I didn’t know he had until today). There is more than a hint of bias if you don’t feel a little dirty about it.

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Irony

What do people think of his plan to create a UK sovereign wealth fund that will fund / own a UK state owned Great British Energy company to develop, own and sell renewable energy competing in the marketplace with EDF, etc? Creating jobs and wealth along way for the whole country.

Seems like such an absolute bang on the money no brainer to me from almost every angle I can imagine in the current situation we find ourselves (sure beats borrowing billions, crashing the currency, bond and housing markets to pay off non UK owned energy companies and offer tax cuts to millionaires!).

Should be an election winner right there, but the right wing press will do their everything to stop him from gaining power.

If he plays the game and wins and delivers things like that for people of this country then I can live with it personally.

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I thought you live in New Zealand :new_zealand:

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Not to mention, isn’t this just virtue-signalling that conservatives are so much against?

In other news, contrast the BBC reporting:

With the CWU’s own words:

Or the context supplied elsewhere:

Absolutely disgusting.

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Oh, I don’t like it. Like I said, you hold your nose while doing it.

But my source of frustration is that so many people read that fucking rag, a leader of the opposition doesn’t really have the option to tell them to do one.

Zelensky, Blinken and others clearly talking shit then.

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I get this entirely. However, equally, if political leaders actually boycotted the S*n then perhaps it wouldn’t enjoy the readership it does?

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I’m not entirely sure its appeal lies in the political leaders writing in it…

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Well, in that case there’s even less reason for Starmer (or others) to contribute.

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Obv they’ll say anything to get much needed help.

Or maybe you’re right and Boris won the war, just like his hero Churchill :roll_eyes:

Sure, keep straw-manning.

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Can we leave the IMF? Interfering so and so’s.

WTF is Starmer writting in the Scum?
‘Went doone chip shop with my muff, you know the one with big tits curvey o’wha’, for a quick bang 'er ‘n’ips.’
FFS you have dive to their level to communicate with them!

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Me. I’d sort this 5h1tsh0w out.

#VOTECDO

You know it makes sense.

:+1::nerd_face:

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Put me in charge, I know fuck all about the economy (which means I’m equally qualified as Truss or Kwarteng) but I will make it law that anyone who says “Pessi”, “Penaldo” or “Cry more” shall be immediately and brutally executed.

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