UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

That ā€˜small stateā€™ idea is only applicable if it means more freedom for us. If it impacts other people, then ā€˜big stateā€™ is great.

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Caught the BBC News coverage of Bravermanā€™s visit to Manston, and the reporter Michael Keohan sounds just like a Tory activist rather than an actual reporter.

Using Bravermanā€™s language of ā€œdefendingā€ against ā€œthe front of migrationā€, and talking about Braverman in fawning terms, despite being called out on the former by the newsreader.

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Alarmingly this is not a person with unique thoughts. This type of thinking is pretty common from what Iā€™ve seen. But they willingly ignore the facts of 4% applications processed in 2021 and 12 years of government failure in addressing the issue.

Farage has done his job well.

Itā€™s astounding how the people who claim loudly to be patriots are apologists for literal shit being pumped onto our beaches and want to erect wire fences around our coastline.

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Iā€™ve always been a little shocked that in the UK, taxes applicable to local councils are to be footed almost wholly by the occupant (unless multi-tenancy agreements). Is there any other country in Europe where a property owner gets such an easy ride? I believe in Spain the owner pays (unless its explicitly stated in the tenancy agreement), and Frances taxes are, although more complex, at least broken down between owner (eg Taxe Fonciere) and occupier (eg waste collection) which makes much more sense.

There probably should be ā€˜council taxā€™ rises, but IMO the entire system needs an overhaul to make it fairer and make any increases at the owners expense. At the moment, people are almost encouraged to double down on debt and get a second home, and further fuck the housing market up. Nothing will happen because Tories and the rich-poor gap is by design.

I agree. Local authority funding is pretty screwed up to be honest but rises also wind people up.

Being honest it feels like the entire portfolio of government finance is broken or reaching a crisis point. Lots of cash going in, not much in the way of service coming out, and in many cases there is a real need for more cash, while in other cases a different approach is needed.

It doesnā€™t feel like itā€™s one or two areas right now. It seems like itā€™s everywhere. Pick an area and simply view the mess.

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Wait, that means even 3% isnā€™t enough to placate the markets?

Oh great. Letā€™s hear how Brexit has nothing to do with it :roll_eyes:

Market rates will usually be higher than the rates set by BoE as I think that is the spread for banks etc to make money. They will both usually be above the rate of inflation.

This isnt a usual situation though, with inflation running @ 10% then something has to give. Either interest rates rise further (to reduce demand within the economy to dampen inflationary pressures) or external factors pushing inflation have to fall such as energy prices falling etc (or more likely a combination of the two).

At this point, Brexit is just like Communism. You tell a brexiteer itā€™s all shit and theyā€™ll ā€˜no, it just wasnā€™t done properlyā€™

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Great white sharks arenā€™t native to these waters. Is he suggesting that we should encourage the great whites to migrate here? :thinking::nerd_face:

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Itā€™s hard to know whether something is a call to LBC or an Exploding Heads parody thesedays.

They donā€™t even speak the language

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Bringing down debt really isnā€™t the best thing the government can do in a recessionā€¦

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