UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

None that work for Scotrail

I was going to suggest you go for a day out to let loose a bit, some carting or something. Just let your hair down have a laugh and forget all the troubles in your life for a minute.
If your all alone i understand the frustration and the build of of tension makes friend making all that more difficult.

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‘I only pay tax for my own benefit, and I’ll avoid it where I can. The poor and vulnerable can fend for themselves’

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:joy:
Jesus

Surely the piss poor service wasn’t even their fault? Not sure how they would have made your connection for you…

Piggy back!

This is the problem in the service industry where time is involved, the knock on effect if you delay one due to another being late.
Better just have Dane complaining about missing a connection than have all your trains running late. It’s the criteria they work to imposed by Government and travellers, if travellers like Dane took an earlier train perhaps more would fall in place?

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I’m assuming that the connection was an advertised route. I think there is a minimum of 7 minutes that has to be accounted for between the advertised times but I know with Scotrail that it was always possible that you could get lucky and have an earlier train - usually because the second train was itself delayed.

I would have thought that the Scotrail system was now improving with the electrification but it always was rather hit and miss. The Glasgow to Dunblane services used to drive me nuts and that was one of the better ones.

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It can not be as bad as the experiences I had in PACA south of France. Marseille Toulon stopping at all the little stations so I could get off at St Cyr (I suppose at least there are trains that service these little places) stopping for 2 hours in the middle of nowhere for no given reason, a complete nightmare with people walking all over the tracks and other trains passing on them at high speed, ‘get back in the train you idiots’.
Happened on the 2 times I took this route now I never use trains in France

Ultimately what we’re seeing in the UK is IMO the direct result of the UK selling off its public services to the private sector. As soon as you end up with service provider who’s core target is not about providing the service then you’re very quickly in a bad place. This is where we’re at. We’ve got rail operators trying to squeeze every penny out of a contract and as a result they are always going to provide the minimum allowed quality that their contract allows (or even not allow in some cases). It’s the same in pretty much every public service in the UK right now and I include the NHS in that. (I note 2no. Lords Peers have just been suspended for lobbying associated with healthcare companies. One is a labour peer as well.)

I’m not advocating or stating that there aren’t problems in a fully publicly owned and managed service industry but there has to be a happy medium somewhere along the line where the core service is the prime focus.

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Too right I’ll complain.
One reason this country is fucked is because too many people shrug their shoulders at mediocrity and it eventually gets accepted as the norm.

All my mates agree

I agree with you about the state of the train system, but I disagree very much with where the blame should be placed.

So drivers, station guards and station administrators are incapable of communicating to ensure that where possible connecting services run efficiently?

Er, yes. The government has created a fractured system in which it is not in a TOC’s interest to comminucate in the manner you’re suggesting.

Drivers, guards and station staff have absolutely 0 to do with the planning of the timetable and they very rarely have anything to do with the reason a train is delayed.

Direct your ire elsewhere, you’re just being angry at a uniform for the sake of it.

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It’s the Signaller that manages train movements. A job akin to an air traffic controller. Perhaps we should blame these people for the state of the railways?

It’s a bit like blaming GPs for the state of the health service. Apparently they never take appointments but we should ignore the hours they do, the fact there’s not enough of them and they’re being asked to pick up the mess from other failing services.

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Even signallers have had their agency taken from them by ARS (automatic route setting). They can override that system but are encouraged not to incase they make an error, which means that obvious solutions to signalling problems are often ignored.

The railway is one big blame game and every TOC and Network Rail are trying to point the finger at someone else.

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Not their fault that the management can’t do its job?

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I already have lots of friends but I could find a space for him…:disappointed_relieved:

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Fair enough.
But his couldn’t give a fuck attitude wasn’t going unchecked.
System failure or not, he was being a dick, or is that the governments fault.

Maybe it was because you were acting the cunt?

Or maybe not.