It amazes me how people (especially on the right it must be said) are incapable or unwilling to consider any nuance or complexity. Their black and white thinking is a vital cog in morally justifying their extreme views
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I wouldnât even blame that on people with right of centre views. I think itâs a natural human tendency. I often have to produce statistics for people and it is quite difficult to explain outliers, distributions, margin of errors and so on. Cause and effect is actually a very fuzzy concept.
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Yes, left wingers can be equally binary 
I guess we all yearn for simplicity, but the complexity is what makes every day so fascinating.
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Some maybe, but it takes a special set of blinkers to argue that all murders are the same, and that we should reintroduce the death penalty in 2023
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Any chance we can have a Crime and Punishment topic so we can just see stuff in here about UK politics? Like how the Tories are screwing us and how the Commies would financially ruin us if they ever got in?
As we head into a world of increasingly authoritarian government and easy access to deepfake technology, the death penalty is the last thing anyone should be arguing for.
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He is also expected to condemn British âdeclinismâ, which he will claim is being âpeddledâ by the Labour party, according to the Daily Mail. Hunt will insist negative forecasts from experts âdo not reflect the whole pictureâ, it reports.
Hunt will also declare it unpatriotic to âlook out of your windowâ or to ânotice things are happeningâ
The chancellor will also make âthe case for optimismâ, blaming EU red tape for stifling British investment. The UK formally left the EU three years ago.
Which answers the question of âwhat will the Tories blame for their mess when weâve left the EUâ. Turns our itâs still the EU.
Honestly, what an absolute bellend. If we didnât want red tape when dealing with the EU, we shouldnât have fucking left. When you see stuff like this, how on earth can we ever have a functioning democracy.
Iâd be interested to see the âaccurateâ forecasts he suggests are out there.
Iâm seriously getting tired of listening to the utter BS being peddled out as reality while ignoring the actual burning house we live in.
Itâs Monty Python all over.
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Much of it wasnât even required by the EU. Frequently governments would be asked to implement policy x and the UK would implement beyond that.
Well if you ever want to rejoin the EU thatâs the first thing that you need to sort. Itâs pretty much the main requirement.
⌠and difficult:
Oh no shit, the same mess the same excuses and the same stupid response! 
Yes! because they are control freaks at the end of the day.
Sorry for my flurry of replies. I just got excited at the hope of the conversation moving on. 
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The fucking brass neck to stand there and say that. We voluntarily left a frictionless trade agreement, and then start crying about red tape. Itâs like cancelling your Netflix subscription and moaning your evenings are shit because you canât watch Stranger Things.
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Itâs heartbreaking:
If a department is very busy, badly staffed and struggling and this happens, whoâs surprised? At least get bloody maternity care right ffs. Money the key or prioritisation? You could double the NHS budget and wards would still be overloaded and situations like this occur. Anybody seen Loganâs Run?
It is awful. Where does the money go I wonder?
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In fact, it doesnât. There are enough serious studies out there, carried out over a long term period, showing that death penalty doesnât deter murders, nor other serious crimes.
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Stop ruining the argument with facts, you.
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Sorry, I canât help it⌠