There’s literally zero data on the number of people who’ve murdered again after being found guilty and forcibly removed from the burden of living. Might not be a deterrent but it absolutely does mean you can’t re-offend.
just in case this is reference to me, I have never said this.
However, I do believe there are situations where there should be consideration taken. as an example, first-degree premeditated murder. Columbine/Sandy Hook situations.
Did anyone complain when the US shot Bin Laden? he was never tried or convicted of a crime.
Would anyone here want Putin to sit in a jail cell for the rest of his life, or put a bullet in him and call it a day.
I threw out a case yesterday as an example, because I’m familiar with it. That happened a few KM from my house. The husband was my dentist and they were family friends. I knew that family, they were good people and ran community businesses. He’s still my dentist, only one I’ve ever had.
Maybe none of you have had this happen in your community, it changes your view on things.
I wasn’t referring to you, but strange how you claim to have never said it, then say it
Yes lots of people did. Should George Bush be shot by Afghanistan (to use the same language)? He’s responsible for a lot more deaths than Bin Laden after all.
He should be tried for war crimes
A significant factor in why the UK property market is fucked.
It’s not as simple as building more houses; if they get built, who buys them?
that all murders are the same? no, I’ve never said that.
That’s why it’s interesting to look at the bigger picture. You kill a murderer, so one would think that society should be in a safer place after that. That’s what you think, right?
But nope, all studies concur that it isn’t the case. So, why is that? There are probably numerous reasons. Maybe one could be that when a state decides to refrain from brutal violence, it helps to progressively reduce the general violence in society?
In any case, one thing which is interesting, is that the number of murders and violent crimes is generally regressing, death penalty or not. This study follows the evolution of murder rate in the US since the early nineties. It’s interesting stuff:
The murder rate is generally lower in the states having death penalty, but the general evolution goes downwards in both states with and without death penalty.
My excitement has turned to dispair.
well I’m done on the topic, if that helps
There’s enough just in that article to suggest individual negligence.
Screening wasn’t done correctly and a doctor ignored concerns, the later is criminal, £800k to protect that fuckwit and we demand what’s wrong? I hope he got struck off however I doubt it.
It seems like an epidemie in the UK Met, NHS … breeding a grate culture. All the fault of the EU of course!
Btw where is that £350 million, or what ever it was scribbled on a bus, that was promised?
Not your fault that Hope couldn’t resist interrupting with some facts.
This is a problem the world over and not just in the UK.Vulture and Cuckoo funds buying up property and then manipulating both sale and rental costs in order to control the property market to get richer.
These big corporations/organisations are getting huge tax breaks and rental supplements to supply housing when it should be the job of Government /Council to house those in society who cannot house themselves .
It’s a lot more critical in the UK than in many other countries. This is why quick and serious action is required and why it poses such a problem in the UK.
It’s another symptom of the grate UK culture that has and is being created!
What is the current process?
Dan Wootton should be held in a secure centre before we deport him.
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Anne Widdicombe shares her outrage?
Standards, mate.
Sigh
I have sympathy with doctors. A year into my first job (20 years ago) I nearly killed a patient. I made a mistake and gave him a blood transfusion with the wrong blood.
I had been on call that week and had 3-4
emergencies that night (6pm to 6am) and was still working my normal day shift (9am to 6pm).
I was so tired I just went into autopilot mode. It was one of the worst days of my life when a nurses told me. I was shaking and was physically sick. I was so close to killing him and he was in a bad way.
I was extremely lucky though the old guy was on that many cancer drugs knocking out his immune system that even though he rejected the blood it did not kill him.
The hospital were very supportive (changed their working policy after incident) and I went to see the old guy several times and he was very understanding.
Within a year though I had left that career path and went back to Uni. I decided the stress and responsibility was not worth the pay.
There is lots of pressure in these jobs, often over worked and and mistakes sadly will happen.
également
Ummm
Isn’t this what happens already?
I couldn’t possibly imagine being in a situation like that or likewise any other doctor in the NHS.
It’s broken, deliberately and it’s forcing these unnecessary errors onto people. It’s people that ultimately suffer.
We discussed murder above but here we have institutional man slaughter.