UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

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It was more the patronising response than the quote.
My comment is valid.

As I said, some may beg to differ from your opinion
9th out of 20 is not exactly one of the top.

My response holds whether Iā€™m talking about politics or football, because it was to do with the point raised.

If you read a patronising response from that, perhaps itā€™s something you should reflect on for yourself. Hereā€™s a thought to help you along the way: would you care as much if such a situation actually existed, but you were in the domineering opinion?

9th out of 232 players who have created at least 1 chance in the Premier League so far this season, let alone of all players in the Premier League. Hereā€™s a clue: thereā€™s more than one page.

Heā€™s also our forward with the most big chances created, with only Alexander-Arnold ahead of him.

More patronisation, seems you canā€™t help it.
I suspect itā€™s only your keyboard manner though, might be a bit troublesome in real life.

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We kind of get the full range here - from harmless, well intentioned kids and punks to humourless dogmatists and all the way to lunatics that just like to smash things and riot.

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See, I knew you were a man of faith :joy:

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Wow thatā€™s an assumptionā€¦ā€¦.

Holy shit ā€¦ as they say.

ā€˜But the descent of Britain is in many ways more dramatic. By the end of next year, the average British family will be less well off than the average Slovenian one, according to a recent analysis by John Burn-Murdoch at The Financial Times; by the end of this decade, the average British family will have a lower standard of living than the average Polish one.ā€™

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There is an archived version of the opinion piece here:

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Its nice that articles are finally focusing on the real issue which is the beginning of Austerity in 2010. Cameron in my eyes will always be a worse leader than any of Boris, Truss (ā€¦OK that oneā€™s closeā€¦) or Rishi because of all the shitty-ness he set in motion.

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Completely agree. It has to be remembered that austerity was never really about reducing the national debt. It was a pretext for shrinking the state and fulfilling Cameronā€™s and Osbornes wet dream of completing the Thatcher project. Well look where thatā€™s landed us now. Another thing that shouldnā€™t be forgotten is how Cameron was (illegally) running around after his premiership , trying to influence government policy to benefit himself to the tune of millions of pounds.

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But the others you mention all had the opportunity to reverse the policy. Instead, they just exacerbated the problem.

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Yes but those fuckwits didnā€™t have a clue what they were doing which excuses them in the face of someone who knew exactly what he was doing for historical reasoss, or something?
Oh! shit itā€™s just that they were all fuckwits isnā€™t it?
@Klopptimist will defend them.
At least they kept Corbyn out!

Edit: I am sure that many will take the fact that they all came out of it much richer they must be clever, of cause it was to the detriment of a country (the country even) but who gives a shit about that. A Tory capitalist wouldnā€™t.

I might have mentioned several million times that Iā€™m not a Tory and I donā€™t defend them except when an accusation is incorrect. Theyā€™re the party closest to my view of the world, critical difference.

The Tories or conservatives? Also a critical difference.

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i know just teasing.
However these fuckwits got rich on others hard work. The capitalist dream getting fat and rich on others hard work. Just thought that might appeal to you. :wink:

If I could be re-incarnated, Iā€™d request a time jump and be a victorian mill owner.

Couldnā€™t the government just fund more lawyers to process asylum cases more quickly? At the moment they seem to be following the old tried-and-trusted concentration camp policy.

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The problem is, as Iā€™ve been saying for a while, Parliament is really now nothing more than a finishing school for a career in finance/corporate sector.

We lack people in Parliament who see their seat as a calling and are motivated from a desire to serve the public.

This is something that has escalated since 2010, and this version of the Tory party has plumbed new depths, with profiteering and nest feathering, but the rot started under Blair, where too many MPs had an eye on their side careers, and the object with Blair himself was obviously looking get out of the job by the time he was 50, and go make the serious money on the public speaking circuit.

Itā€™s incredibly difficult to row back on this now, largely because the lunatics are running the asylum. We need an absolute prohibition on second jobs, and we need the rules on conduct of interest massively tightened. But it will be incredibly hard to get MPs to vote for it. Parliament essentially works on the assumption that the members are ā€˜honourableā€™, which leaves it incredibly vulnerable against people like Boris Johnson.

A change of Government will help, but there are still plenty of Labour MPs feathering their nests. I get the impression that Keir Starmer is at heart a public servant, and this is the role he sees himself in. He could do a lot worst, when it comes to manifesto time, than to announce and commit to a root and branch reform of Parliament and Lords with the aim of rebuilding trust from the public and insulating Parliament from the kind of entryism and corruption that has characterised it over the last 15-20 years.

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