UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

The (recognised) trade union will bargain on behalf of a role/grade, not individuals. There’s no need for a company to know if individuals are in the union or not.

Non-union members receive the same pay and conditions as union members in the same role.

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There is a need for an employer to know who’s going to be at work on a certain day.

I thought you couldn’t be arsed discussing it?

Membership of unions and them in general, not their impact on society.

As their actions have trashed learning for children today and created havoc for parents, very much for discussion. Simple, tell your employer if you’re going on strike 5 days out and they can make according alternative plans.

different rules in different countries, I’ve never found a place here that had union and no-union staff working the same jobs at same locations. been in an organizing committee, and been in management. seen both sides of the CBA

The clue is in the thread title, eh

clearly, they have some labor issues over there. big issues.

You wouldn’t know that just from knowing someone is in a union. Lots of union members continue working on a strike day - and as mentioned earlier, a non union member is also free to strike if the strike itself is lawful.

Learning has been trashed for a while and school isn’t a dumping ground for parents. Don’t have kids if you can’t look after them I say.

Shame on you for expecting the state to babysit your children.

Employers know about strikes 14 days in advance. I’m surprised to see you advocate for that to be lowered to 5 days, but for once we find ourselves on common ground.

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Payroll would need to know in order to deduct subscription paid to union.

That ended a while ago.

My union fees are paid directly to the Union.

Edit: This might just be the industry I’m in. Fairly sure I used to pay union subs out of the paypacket but that definitely doesn’t happen now. Might do elsewhere.

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I don’t, that’s not the point and you very well know it. Working parents rely on the school day for reasons that are obvious to anybody with a functioning brain.

If you can’t look after kids yourself, don’t have them.

So why did one of my schools not know how many staff would be striking today? There’s the problem. An employer isn’t entitled to know if an employee is in a union so what’s the advantage of knowing a strike is looming? This makes zero sense.

I can, that isn’t the point. If you work full time… Ah fuck it, you’re just on the WUM here.

As I’m in Ireland there may be some differences but i wouldn’t think all that much but my fees are still on my payslip.Also when we have union meetings,onsite and at the company’s expense(during working hrs),they are supposed to be informed so they know who will/won’t be on the shop floor.

Maybe they should get a job which actually allows them to look after their children instead of relying on the state.

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At a day’s notice. Try it, see how that goes for you.

Is this your one defence for teachers striking and schools closing? Parents shouldn’t rely on the state? Thought you were of the left? That idea is very much of the right.

fuck man, what world are you living in?