The more you demonise it, the harsher it can be treated.
For once, no argument.
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Iâm trying to remember who said it but there is a quote about the fundamental failure of populist movements is that they donât actually solve any of the problems that they are creating a noise about. The whole current furore about small boats is regarding a problem that the current government literally created. At some point, people will have to wise up to the actual cause.
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The cost must be staggering. I wonder how many potholes that could fill?
Just look at how well the streamlining is going! Probably the only streamlining is the way public funds get transferred into private pocketsâŚ
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You mean even people seeking asylum in the right channels? Are they not even Processing those who go through the proper channels to seek asylum?
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See the link I posted above.
Also, for what itâs worth, the government canât point to any legal routes to asylum either. As I understand it, they have made it such that asylum claims by people who have not entered the country legally or do not remain in the country legally are automatically rejected. But they also do not have any paths open for someone to claim asylum from outside the country. So you have to already have some other legal route to enter the country, such as an existing visa, in order to claim asylum.
Yes. Below taken from the refugee council.org
âThe backlog in cases awaiting an initial decision continued to rise to another record high. At the end of 2022, 160,919 people were waiting for an outcome on their initial claim for asylum, over triple the number of people awaiting an initial decision at the end of 2019 (51,228).â
Also worth noting from the commons library i.e. records from UK parliament
âThe percentage of asylum applicants refused at initial decision reached its highest point at 88% in 2004. Since then, the refusal rate has been falling overall and was at 24% in 2022, its lowest point since 1990.â
A few interesting stats here too
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/#:~:text=Asylum%20applications&text=After%20that%20the%20number%20fell,highest%20annual%20number%20since%202002.
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donât like prison? donât do shit thatâll result in a visit.
pretty simple fucking formula.
There is a culture novel (Banks) where people who commit crimes are put into a virtual prison - one where they get the punishment they deserve. They experience the pain and trauma their victims (may have) suffered - but it may just have been a pain thing (memory is a fickle thing). They are in a coma like state and subjected to the correction experienceâŚ
Nice as that sounds, does it mean that we (society) are more interested in revenge than reform of the individual?
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not interested in that debate.
just saying, if you donât want to experience prison⌠donât do something worthy of such.
Been stuck in a cell for a night due to being out for a night with the wrong person, no fault of my own. valuable lesson learned.
Yeah, but the virtual prison is cheaper⌠Everything is automated!
tongue and cheek⌠in case of clarification
ahhh I got you. having flashbacks of Demolition ManâŚ
I am guessing that independence might be on hold for a little while longer then 
Did you read the article? A lot of them havenât even been formally charged with anything, or are awaiting trial.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Maybe try reading the full article before coming up with a knee-jerk response?
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Another u-turn coming up from the government:
While there are many faults with the House of Lords, situations such as this one show how important they are as a balance to the Commons.
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lol ⌠another humiliation for Walter and his gang.
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This will end well.