UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

Sorry, I hadn’t seen @WeeJoe 's post so thought you were asking about the other stuff in the thread!

No worries.

I would certainly like a say in whether the UK could re-enter the EU particularly as I didn’t have a say in the UK leaveing, despite being English.
Btw I would vote against it!
The English don’t have a place in it and for Scotland, Wales and NI it’s for them to sort out their relation with England 1st!

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I think England should vote for independence from the rest of the UK!!!

afterall during the Scottish independence vote we were continually told that Scotland couldnt survive without the rest of the UK,

think how rich England would be if it didnt have to subsidise the other home nations,

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Just watching Part 3…

I have never seen a sorrier bunch of mealy-mouthed cunts in my life.

I hope they all burn.

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‘Because @Dane said.’

And I’m not messing with Dane.

What a truly vile human being

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It was declared that the Scottish referendum was a ‘once in a generation’ referendum.
Don’t recall Brexit being declared as such.

** Cameron claimed that Britain could have to wait for up to two years after voting to leave the EU before it could start negotiating trade deals with other countries. This delay could be damaging to business, he said.*

** He said the Treasury and the Bank of England would publish reports on the economic implications of Brexit.*

** He said the EU referendum was a “once in a generation” decision. It was more important than a general election, he said.*

> I would argue this is a much bigger decision because at election times you can vote in a team of people and if you’ve got fed up with them after five years you can vote them out.

> This is a decision that lasts for life. We make this decision and it is probably going to be the only time in our generation when we make this decision.

Cameron: EU referendum is a ‘once in a generation’ decision - Politics live | Politics | The Guardian

I only said I didn’t recall :innocent:

Cameron said something so it’s true.

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I think that is a fair point to make, however, Brexit in itself was a major change in the UK landscape that would (at least in my opinion) justify another one (if the Scottish people want another one?) within this generation.

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Problem with that logic is, when do you stop?
It’s like returning your lottery ticket every week complaining that it wasn’t a winner

That was the exact argument used in the SNP manifesto - once in a lifetime unless there was ‘a “significant and material” change in circumstances, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will.’

This was before the EU referendum. It’s a bone of contention with many as the “No” vote in the 2014 Scottish Independence referendum specifically made the point that independence would mean Scotland removing itself from the EU.

As for whether the UK could rejoin the EU it’s rather a mute point because it would not meet the acceptance criteria as it stands. It’s not like a Netflix subscription that you can start and stop at will.

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Except it isn’t.

The landscape post 2016 is very different to that of 2014 when most people would not have expected the UK to withdraw from the EU completely. That decision has had a significant and material impact on Scotland.

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Yes.
But you can’t say, let’s have a referendum on the future of a nation, and promise that nothing in the landscape will change.
Anyone who actually thinks that the world around them will stay exactly as it was after the event, probably shouldn’t be voting anyway.

Another Lie…

The way you’ve been going for the last 12 years, you won’t need to

A lie that they would have been removed from the EU or that they said this? They definitely said it but as to what would happen is anyone’s guess as there hadn’t been that situation before.

That we would be removed from the EU