It’s not difficult. You get very grouchy and shouty when discussing politics. I’m not the only one to point this out. Once Labour start to fuck up (and we all know they will) I’ll be pointing it out with the exact level of glee that 98% of the forum have done on here over the tories. Of course forgetting that the only one who actually advocated Boris swinging was me.
The difference will be that you have a big red button. I’m not stopping being me, nor should I have to.
My suspicion is she is going to use this as ammunition to launch a leadership challange, most likely after the next election if they lose.
I only hope someone in the party is smart enough to use her being sacked as HS twice as proof she is not fit for leadership, but that is something that remains to be seen if anyone will take that approach
If Labour fuck up to the extent the Tories have - utterly destroying the country over thirteen years - then I’ll happily join you in criticising them. As I’ve said before, last time Labour were in power and illegally invaded a country, I left the party and didn’t vote for that leader again. I know where my moral compass is, and it’s bigger than any party loyalty I have.
You know the score with moderation. You’ve been here long enough. Suggesting I’ll ban you for disagreeing with me on politics is obviously nonsense, and you are just saying that as a pre-emptive strike.
Yeah, mate. You did really well there. I mean, most of us bothered to understand him, to look at his record and see what kind of man he was, and realised he was dangerously unsuited to any kind of office, so didn’t vote for him and refused to endorse his politics. But you voted for him and enabled him, and then when it inevitably went tits up, called for him to be executed. So obviously you have the moral high ground.
I’m assuming that’s what will happen. I was wondering whether there was some exclusion. He is a former PM so it isn’t that unusual but he would be the first PM since Thatcher to accept a peerage.
When you are struggling to form a cabinet without putting failed former PMs in the Lords to prop up the numbers, then you know things are really desperate.
We’ve never needed a general election more than we do right now.
I think what Whippet is saying (and I think he is right) is that it should have had a definite act of making it clear that the home secretary’s behaviour was indefensible and sacking her, rather than doing it as part of a reshuffle. If you want to lay down a marker, show your authority and emphasise standards expected in high office, you have actively sack her.
Sunak is trying to hide, again. Look - David Cameron. Remember him? It’s like one of those Doctor Who specials where Jon Pertwee turns up looking significantly older and more portly than when we last saw him.