UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

It certainky seems that way. Here we are again, others cleaning up posh boys who cant do sums mess.

What bugs me most is the complete underhand way they deliberately kept the state of things out of the pinlic eye and parliament. That is criminal in any other walk of life, but here they walk away with nothing more than the embarrassment of being called out. At least they can look to the Daily Mail for support tomorrow.

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Its an entitlement

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So, what is their race? The Porcini?

It might be criminal here as well. I don’t quite understand how they managed to keep this from the Audit Office.

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It’s a non means tested contributory benefit.

:+1:

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Found this on beeb today 'Bean counters' get their revenge, as Rachel Reeves unveils spending audit - BBC News

My bet is that we will probably not see the full scale of how much damage the torries have done for a couple of years, but once the full picture becomes clear, they will be such a poisoned chalace that they will effectively become a nothing political party that would trust with a shit sandwich

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Good that she’s giving junior doctors a hefty pay rise.
They can coin it in even more, doing overtime treating all the pensioners with hypothermia

There’s part of me that wants this pursued just to discourage this kind of behaviour anything in the future. It was clearly part political sabotage, part promise everything sort the money later, but given their reputation you always suspect more.

Good to hear further processes being put in place to prevent this again too but i find myself increasingly frustrated at MP’s actions covered by little more than trust.

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The rise still doesnt take them back to their adjusted salary level in 2010.

Agreed the winter fuel payments feels like a proper kick in the bollocks though. I wonder why they picked on that in particular?

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I think the initial thing is to stop bleeding personnel. Training new doctors is notoriously expensive and if you want to attract doctors internationally you have to out compete the richest countries in the world, or take them from 3rd World countries that has even worse outcomes.

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It would have made more sense to simply add it to the base pension and adjust the tax rates accordingly.

It will tend to hit those who are just above the benefit threshold, or those that don’t want to claim them.

I’m assuming that there are other cuts?

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Indeed

It was the stand out one that would appear to hit vulnerable people over other’s. I half suspect there will something given back in the October budget. Triple lock was also reviewed, mentioned yesterday. I know pensions are a huge drain on oublic finance and a black hole in themselves but this felt full Tory austerity when i first heard it.

Other cuts? Yes. Departments being asked to find significant savings and asked to pull back on certain press release stuff, presentations etc. Other cuts were mainly to certain projects that were due to start, such as the long overdue A303 work and the A27. Basically they’ve pulled back on everything and anything that was unfunded which includes the new National certificate thingy, Hunt’s investment plan and do on.

It’s worth a listen if you get a chance. Reeves does not hold back.

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Climate change means milder winters. The trend is already there for all to see. While some people will still experience cold spells, heating will not be as essential as it was before, especially as more buildings are brought up to modern insulation standards.

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I wonder what the plans on insulation are? That was one area that the Tories really buggered up early on. It also has one of the best paybacks of all government interventions.

My bet would be the tories are likely the ones scamming the payments, so she is cutting off their source of dodgy money

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Perhaps it was a measure ready to go as it seems to get suggested around each budget?

It wont affect all pensioners as the poorest with entiltlement to other benefits will retain it and a lot currently recieving it probably don’t need it. I havent a clue though as to the proportion of pensioners who do need it (i’ve seen one figure online say 80% dont but have no idea as to accuracy or reliability of that figure) and as @RedWhippet says there is a potential risk that those just above the pension credit threshold miss out and suffer from the change, so it will be interesting if we see further changes to that threshold at the budget.

I dont know if @RedWhippet s suggested solution is easy to implement or whether Martin Lewis’s is fairer than that put forward by the chancellor.

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