UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

Easier to provide a boat yourself is it not?

You’ve prejudged the asylum status of these people before actually checking it and decided that a violent solution is the best first course of action.

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Violence against a boat. Ok.

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Shooting things isnt violent?

I assume you think the risks involved are insignificant?

The idea is bonkers and full of holes like one of the shot dinghies.

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I assume this never happened and there’s no way for genuine asylum seekers to start their claim process in France?

There isn’t a legal route for asylum, period, at least as far as I can tell. I don’t think you can claim asylum from outside the country, and most asylum-seekers would probably require visas to enter the country through regular means, hence the popularity of the sea route.

As far as I’m aware, airlines have a legal responsibility to ensure that their passengers either possess the right to enter the destination country or to repatriate them. I’m not sure how it works for ferries, but I would imagine it’s not too dissimilar.

And then for Eurostar, they wouldn’t even make it out of Paris/Brussels/Rotterdam/Amsterdam because of juxtaposed controls (or whatever it’s called).

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I would LOVE a reasoned explanation at to why so many people risk their lives to get to the UK.

Nothing springs immediately to mind :roll_eyes:

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If you look at where most of them are coming from, it will likely be either that the UK has bombed the fuck out of the homeland, or mined the fuck out of it leaving nothing for the locals to make a living from.

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Or speak the language, have friends/families here, etc.

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“I have great policy ideas but I don’t believe that what’s in my head is going to get us out of the mess we are in.”

Apparently (I didn’t watch it) Kemi Badenoch came out with this inspiring line on GB News last night. And this genius wants to be the next Prime Minister…

Bwahahahahahahahaha

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Well I got on a boat and went in the opposite direction!

There will be a variety of reasons, but it is likely that a fair few have connections to the country, e.g. other family members or they are people that should have been properly evacuated. (About 20% are Afghans that are likely fleeing because they had assisted the British military there).

One of the biggest reasons is that they are looking for an English speaking country. One of the highest per capita countries for refugees is Malta, which is also an island and English speaking.

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I once had a chance to be British. My grandmother was a servant in a rich British family when Singapore was under British rule. After the war, she was asked by the family whether she wants to follow them back where they can get her a British citizenship or passport. She rejected. If she had accepted, I would have been born in the UK, grow up playing football. I could have been Steven Gerrard

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…or Banksy :wink:

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Those with the broadest shoulders would like the government to fuck off.

One change they could make is to turn it into an actual inheritance tax. What they have now is a death tax as it is charged against the estate, not the beneficiary.

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Given that the IT threshold is only £325,000 I was surprised to read that only 5% of estates are likely to be subject to it.

I know it is complicated by property and estates passing to spouses. I live in north merseyside but I would say the vast majority of properties within a 3 mile radius of here are worth at the very least £400,000 without factoring in any savings.

I would imagine every equivalent property in the SE is worth at least 50% more… I know someone who has just paid £800,000 for a small semi in Kent.

5% just seems incredibly low.

I think if you have a house it’s £500k not £325k.

So for a married couple that usually translates to £1m.

Also I’d imagine you have to factor in the mortgage…

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Yes I know but I still think with rising property prices that even £1 million is not that much if say your property is even just a modest house in the London commuter belt…

I live in prime commuter belt country and surprisingly few properties are over a million.

It’s just that television property porn and glossy weekend magazines make it look as though everyone in the suburbs lives in a mansion. Far more people live in flats or bedsits.

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Those that are likely to be hit by IT usually make provision in advance, e.g. by “gifting” property to children within 7 years of death, trusts and so on.

The effective IT threshold for most estates is £650,000 due to married couples accumulating the allowance.

I’m not sure about the 5% but many people don’t inherit anything in their lives. I received £2000 from a distant relative but many people will only ever receive keepsakes.

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