UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

No some people may use it that way but it is more common to think of it as a range between 3 and several. It is therefore highly relative to the context of the discussion, and on what is being discussed, especially the scale.

If we’re comparing against immigration in total or the existing uk population, then the word applies to even the higher figure of 45k @cynicaloldgit gave.

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Wasted, mate.

Ok, I’ll bear that in mind moving forward. Next time a mate suggests going out for a few drinks I’ll prepare myself to drink 45-50 pints. Or if they tell me they’re going away for a few days I’ll assume I wont see them for 7 weeks.

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One of my favourite incidents was when my sister and I were having a quiet pint in her then local (she has moved now). The landlord came back from a shopping trip effing and blinding because a “Paki” had carved him up on the way back. He launched into a tirade about how Pakis all stink of curry, have too many children, don’t even learn the language and try to impose Sharia law on the country.

He then looked up and saw us sat there. “You two are all right, though. We know you.”

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The idiot. It’s obviously Korma law.

That’s the thing about areas with low ethnic diversity. It’s too easy to see them as the “other”, and I say that with more than just towns and villages in mind. It’s a problem with ethnic enclaves in larger cities too, and is a huge barrier to sociocultural immigration when new immigrants just stick to people they know. Looking at you, @SBYM.

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Just for context, Germany had 329.000 new asylum applicants in 2023. That number doesn’t include the 1.3 million Ukrainian refugess that have come since 2022.

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Ah, but how many of them arrived in rubber dinghies? Zero, I bet.

I propose we copy the German model.

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A few less dinghies, a few more people

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Heard it said this morning, there might be a few goals in our game this afternoon.
Looking forward to us giving this a run for it’s money.

Arbroath F.C. 36–0 Bon Accord F.C. - Wikipedia.

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If you are confident what you are saying is not racist, you don’t need the qualifier.

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I read somewhere that witnesses said/a video showed him saying something at that point about having been threatened?

Still not really excusable, but more understandable if there was a real threat to his safety.

That’s a very funny cartoon but it doesn’t alter the fact the country is on it’s arse.
You might be right as to the reasons why that is the case, how can the 6th richest country on the planet be so fucked with regards to all the basic societal needs?
Until that is addressed we can’t compound the problem by adding to it.

If only that’s how it worked.

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@redalways

I was writing a response to your post, in my opinion pulling apart your points :joy:.
I think it is wise that we reset the whole debate, as it has kind of got lost in translation, misinterpretation and additionally (I’m sure you will agree) takes up too much time and energy.

Despite some in differences, I believe in general we both want the same thing and have similar frustrations with the current system :+1:t2:

Yes and no, if immigrants come in fill vacancies that the uk cant, doctors, nurses for example, pay taxes etc. then thats a good thing no?

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I completely agree.

However, in today’s ever increasingly offended society, it is hard to express a point of view based on a persons experience/opinion without being judged.

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I neither need, nor use a “qualifier”.
But as you say, todays society, many of which go out of their way to be offended on behalf of others.

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It’s a very good thing and I’m all for it in general although it raises the question why the 6th richest country on the planet can’t train and pay it’s own people enough to make those jobs more attractive.
What isn’t a good thing is tens of thousands of economic migrants who have no skills whatsoever entering the country every year and either being a drain on the country’s finances or disappearing into the black economy and contributing nothing.
Again, the reasons/blame for this being the case are plentiful but that doesn’t alter the fact it is unsustainable and and needs stopping.