UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

I’m not racist but like, that’s just your opinion, man.

Really! I hadn’t thought of you as a racist bastard before now.

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It would appear he’s deleted this Tweet.

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Cut of choice for some on here.

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I am racist, can’t stand F1 anymore,

I’m not racist. I hate everyone equally.

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There was a much more colourful version of that in one of the Dirty Harry films.

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This is a family forum, so you’ll never see me swearing here.

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I see @redalways has responded eloquently but I’ll add a few points.

Firstly an asylum seeker has no obligation to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach. The choice if where they seek asylum is theirs. 1951 refugee convention.

Yes there are some that are trying their luck to cross with the hope of disappearing. If they get picked up, they claim asylum and hope to do a runner from whatever accommodation their in. I’ve said that.
The flipside is that with conditions so poor in some instances and no hope of your claim being resolved some will run to family & friends here too.
You’ll need to back up the numbers though. I would be alarmed if the numbers are where you say.

Lastly, the solution to this has always been processing asylum applications quickly and safe routes. Basically remove opportunities for the system to be abused as it has been.

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If only the politicians who bang on about France/Italy/wherever being a safe country were challenged with this fact by the so-called journalists on television.

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The French really have a hard time policing their borders to Afghanistan and Syria.

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You forgot ‘I’m not racist but…’

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He is peddling the myth that refugees have to seek asylum in the first safe control they enter.

Of course, this isn’t true. There is no such requirement. And France takes far more asylum seekers than the UK anyway. We are right at the bottom of the stats on that one.

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One has to ask, given that France has the better food, better weather, fractionally less empire building history and a charming hotel I know very well in Avignon, why carry on to the UK? Nope, no idea.

Anybody who might have an idea or suggestion is of course automatically a racist. Obviously.

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Language? Family?

Maybe actually do some investigating before forming your opinion.

Or, just keep trolling.

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I’m not racist but I just can’t be arsed doing basic research (or a google search) on the reasons why asylum seekers come to the UK

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A lot of this is a result of colonialism and soft power.

People tend to go where they have some chance of settling. Speaking the language is a big part of that. A lot of Africans go to France because that is where they had their colonies.

English is a very widely spoken language because we exported it around the world at the point of a gun. We controlled the biggest Empire the world has ever seen, and even in countries we didn’t invade we exported a cultural dominance that require English as a second language.

So of course people want to come here. If Britain got hit by a meteor, and I had to leave I would go to a Spanish speaking country, because I have a smattering of the language. That’s just sense.

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Ah, the good old trolling line, it’s more ancient that COG.

Now why would family be here? As for language, anybody seeking asylum from an English (native) speaking company shouldn’t be seeking asylum. Until next month of course when millions of Americans will be fleeing from the dreaded orange man.

As for research, I’ll renew my Guardian subscription so I can do the same as you.

Zzzzzzzzzzz…