You’ve been informed that the UK has far less asylum applications than other countries (17th out of the EU27 countries) and that we have far less generous supports. You keep posting Daily Mail tropes and refuse to give your opinion on why asylum seekers come to UK. So you can’t really complain about being accused of trolling
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Wondering what an acceptable asylum seeker to the UK would be. I guess has to arrive directly from a war torn country via plane.
Don’t forget that they need to have a PHD level medical qualification, speak perfect English, be willing to renounce their former culture, and be willing live miles away from any white people.
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Shit, I only got 1 out of 4. There goes my escape plan.
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Ah. OK. The problem is that you are asleep. I just thought you were strategically ignoring new information.
Legal migration, illegal migration and Asylum Seeking are different things, as has now been explained several times.
What you are talking about in this diatribe is people seeking asylum. People fleeing war torn countries or persecution, lacking documentation etc.
Asylum seeking is not a form of illegal migration, regardless of how often you intentionally or unintentionally conflate the two. It doesn’t matter how you arrive in the country. If you claim asylum, you have legal right to remain until such time as your claim has been assessed and ruled on. It is not possible to be an asylum seeker and be in the country illegally.
At this point it’s entirely on the country to get that claim assessed. If claims are not met, we can legally deport them. It is not the fault of people seeking asylum that the strategy of the previous government was to put them in hotels indefinitely and then use them as a scapegoat.
The vast majority of those who disappear into the black economy are the victims of people traffickers and criminal gangs. Many of them (thousands by a recent estimate) are children. But you’ve done your research. You already know this.
It would be less naive than working on the assumption that desperate people trying to reach the UK as a matter of survival are probably criminals, which is what you are doing.
There is a deep level of criminality at the heart of the asylum issue, but that is because the previous government basically outsourced the problem to these people. You are right that lots of people arriving in the UK through unconventional means are disappearing off grid into criminal activity. But you are acting like this is a choice. Criminal gangs will confiscate documents and passports and force people into criminal activity like prostitution or the drug trade.
This is why safe legal routes, and an efficient processing system are so important.
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Just when we thought you couldn’t get any more tiresome, boring and downright fucking supercilious, you go and outdo yourself.
EDIT- I missed arrogant.
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You know what fella, you can waffle on all day about how right you are about everything and how every man and his dog has the right to come here but ultimately my views are pretty uncomplicated.
Like i’ve said numerous times I’m all for bringing in the right people in the right numbers in the right areas.
That’s not how it’s panning out though. I don’t know what it’s like where you live but in Liverpool now there are a number of severely deprived, dirt-poor areas - Anfield, Kensington, Fairfield, Breck Road, West Derby Road, Shiel Road etc - and these are the areas that asylum seekers and migrants are being housed in. Cramming more and more dirt-poor people into an already dirt-poor area. How is that going to benefit anyone? These areas have been deprived, slum areas for decades and that’s not going to change. It’s a fucking recipe for disaster but hey, let’s just keep compounding the problem year after year.
I’m sorry for anybody caught up in a war zone or being persecuted for whatever reason but how about we get our own house in order first? All we’re doing is turning other countries problems into our own problems.
If that’s something you’re happy with then fine but I’m not and I’m as entitled to have that opinion as you are yours.
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The UK has amongst the largest, if not the largest diaspora of those groups seeking asylum to the UK
You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. You are not entitled to change the legal definition of Asylum to suit your own argument.
You are entitled to an opinion that we need to look after our own first, and other people are entitled to point out that this is exact phraseology used by racists like Nigel Farage, and question the company you are keeping.
You are entitled to express concern that there are thousands of people lost to the system, and others are entitled to point out that the vast majority of these people are trafficked, and the victims of criminal gangs rather than extensions of them.
Finally, you are entitled to your opinion, but if you don’t want it challenged by people who disagree maybe don’t post it on a fucking discussion board?
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Believe me, I’m holding back. Especially when I reply to you.
Yeah, maybe try giving your head a fucking wobble and have a think why Asylum Seekers are sent to dirt poor areas and left there indefinitely. Hmmm what could the conservative government have possibly stood to gain from pushing asylum seekers into direct conflict with people who are already below the breadline?
Why, it’s almost as if there is some sort of…I don’t know…agenda to use asylum to distract people from the political decisions that have led to their problems, and provide a convenient scapegoat on their doorstep they can project all their anger onto.
But it can’t be that, so get the illegals! Get them out. No more here. We’re full!
I’m not racist but I’ve got no sense of humour, sorry
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I don’t agree with most of what you have written about immigration, but you do raise an important point here. It’s much easier for people who live in more affluent areas to be an advocate for migration/asylum seekers. They are almost always housed in the poorest parts of cities, inevitably adding to pressures on some services there (e.g. even in the most welcoming of schools, it is undeniably a challenge to teach a class with 7-8 different languages and a range of educational experience/attainment).
The anger should be directed at years of government fucking up services and increasing wealth inequality, but I do understand how people in socially deprived areas feel abandoned
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I understand it too. When you are living off crumbs dropped from table at feast to which you aren’t invited, you are inevitably going to get angry if you think other people are trying to steal your crumbs.
I get frustrated that people’s instinct is to protect their crumbs rather than tip over the fucking table.
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Sadly you need lots of (institutional) help to tip over a table if you are worried about crumbs.
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Trying to decide if it is Palmer or Garnacho 
It’s not hard to imagine why, given property prices. I can’t imagine it would be cheap for them to find housing for asylum seekers in expensive areas.
@jaffod listed a load of areas in Liverpool that are being impacted by asylum seekers being located there.
It made me wonder what it was about the staunchly left-wing, Labour voting heartland than made the Tories go for that.
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Don’t hold back!
Give it all youve got.
I could do with a fucking good laugh
Wow, some kind of local council inspector are you?