The UK has amongst the largest, if not the largest diaspora of those groups seeking asylum to the UK
Youāre entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. You are not entitled to change the legal definition of Asylum to suit your own argument.
You are entitled to an opinion that we need to look after our own first, and other people are entitled to point out that this is exact phraseology used by racists like Nigel Farage, and question the company you are keeping.
You are entitled to express concern that there are thousands of people lost to the system, and others are entitled to point out that the vast majority of these people are trafficked, and the victims of criminal gangs rather than extensions of them.
Finally, you are entitled to your opinion, but if you donāt want it challenged by people who disagree maybe donāt post it on a fucking discussion board?
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Believe me, Iām holding back. Especially when I reply to you.
Yeah, maybe try giving your head a fucking wobble and have a think why Asylum Seekers are sent to dirt poor areas and left there indefinitely. Hmmm what could the conservative government have possibly stood to gain from pushing asylum seekers into direct conflict with people who are already below the breadline?
Why, itās almost as if there is some sort ofā¦I donāt knowā¦agenda to use asylum to distract people from the political decisions that have led to their problems, and provide a convenient scapegoat on their doorstep they can project all their anger onto.
But it canāt be that, so get the illegals! Get them out. No more here. Weāre full!
Iām not racist but Iāve got no sense of humour, sorry
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I donāt agree with most of what you have written about immigration, but you do raise an important point here. Itās much easier for people who live in more affluent areas to be an advocate for migration/asylum seekers. They are almost always housed in the poorest parts of cities, inevitably adding to pressures on some services there (e.g. even in the most welcoming of schools, it is undeniably a challenge to teach a class with 7-8 different languages and a range of educational experience/attainment).
The anger should be directed at years of government fucking up services and increasing wealth inequality, but I do understand how people in socially deprived areas feel abandoned
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I understand it too. When you are living off crumbs dropped from table at feast to which you arenāt invited, you are inevitably going to get angry if you think other people are trying to steal your crumbs.
I get frustrated that peopleās instinct is to protect their crumbs rather than tip over the fucking table.
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Sadly you need lots of (institutional) help to tip over a table if you are worried about crumbs.
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Trying to decide if it is Palmer or Garnacho 
Itās not hard to imagine why, given property prices. I canāt imagine it would be cheap for them to find housing for asylum seekers in expensive areas.
@jaffod listed a load of areas in Liverpool that are being impacted by asylum seekers being located there.
It made me wonder what it was about the staunchly left-wing, Labour voting heartland than made the Tories go for that.
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Donāt hold back!
Give it all youve got.
I could do with a fucking good laugh
Wow, some kind of local council inspector are you?
Yeah. 1st class too.
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Wow, so much Iām doing without knowing it.
First of all Iām not trying to change the legal definition of anything. Iāve made my stance perfectly clear. I am more than happy for qualified people to come in who can start working wherever they are needed.
I am not happy for people to come in who have nothing to offer and are going to be a drain on the countryās finances or who will disappear into the black economy or commit crime.
Right now I donāt care whether they are claiming they are fleeing a war zone or being persecuted, I want it to stop because the country is on itās arse and canāt accommodate them. YES, 14 years of Tory rule has left services massively underfunded and close to collapse but again, I donāt care whoās fault it is, the fact is we are where we are and blaming the Toryās isnāt going to magic up the billions of pounds needed to put things right.
You say I sound like āracists like Nigel Farageā for saying I think we should look after our own first and then question the company I keep. So itās racist to say we should look after our own people first? Youāre out of your fucking mind.
The company I keep are people like myself. Honest, hard-working tax-paying citizens. Normal people. And guess what? Iād say 95% hold the same views as me and are sick to fucking death of having labels stuck on them by the likes of you.
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Fucking bore off. You sound like Kier Starmer. We all fucking know the Toryās underfunded everything for years, banging on about it isnāt going to solve the problem and neither is cramming thousands more people who have fuck all into already massively deprived areas. The whereās and whyās arenāt the issue, whatās done is done and the only way to address it is to STOP FUCKING DOING IT for a few years, improve things as much as possible and THEN start to help people where we can. All we are doing now is compounding the problem and imo we are already beyond the point where it can be put right.
Who are these people?
I genuinely donāt know why you keep obsessing over this supposed group of people, when they donāt exist. Asylum seekers donāt fit this category.
Yes it can, because when they are actually processed properly, unless Iām much mistaken, they donāt get housed for long because once they are granted asylum, they get turfed out and are left to fend for themselves.
If youāre a migrant you generally have whatās called āno recourse to public fundsā, which is pretty self-explanatory. You donāt get access to welfare nor public housing.
A government can do more than one thing at a time.
There are many more places in the country where asylum seekers can be housed pending decisions, and I would hope the government is already looking into that.
The UK does not get to refuse to accept asylum seekers without breaking international law however, so the only immigrants you can refuse are the very same economically active immigrants who by definition contribute to the economy.
Liverpool City Council has been under Labour control since 2010. Do the council have any say in where people are placed? Do central government tell them they have to be housed in solely poor areas?
I doubt it myself but expect you to tell me Iām WRONG! pretty soon.
So those coming over from France on small boats enter the labour market as soon as they get here do they? Thatās a new one on me.