UK Politics Thread (Part 3)




Don’t disparage us the village idiots.

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I don’t get it. Looks more like a coincidence than anything else.

As above.


What a fucking cesspool…


But…but…Brexit was supposed to reduce net migration, not send it to record-breaking high numbers!


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Great thread. ‘Immigrant’ is always used as a pejorative term. I’ve never heard any journalist or politician ask ‘why?’ when reducing net migration is being discussed.

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Their go-to excuse is “drain on resources”

Immigration favours those who own property where it is inflationary and disadvantages those reliant upon wages where it is disinflationary. Where it involves significant numbers of people who aren’t filling in needed skills deficits, it acts to increase income inequality.


No; that would be due to employers maximising profits by keeping wages low, not immigration.

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But they can do this precisely because general immigration increases the supply of labour for lower paid work. It’s no accident that property developers and businesses owners love higher immigration.

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When the opposite is true


I think in the UK experience it has had little negative impact on workers wages.

Source- The Daily Express?

Let’s ignore a decade of Tories siphoning money from the poor to the rich, Brexit, Kwarteng budget that whacked £500 on our mortgages.

Blame immigrants for inflation and inequality instead.


It’s actually interesting to see more of a breakdown of where the migration figures are coming from. The headline figures assume that all migrants are equal, which they clearly aren’t.

The figures quoted appear to include students which are essentially a net gain to the economy.Overseas students are a huge source of income for the education sector and the knock on effect for local economies will keep a good few people employed. The downside is that they do need to be accommodated and that requires proper local planning, which I get the impression isn’t really happening in Liverpool?

Where there does tend to be a “drain on resources” would be with older people who will tend to require more in the way of healthcare whilst generating less for the economy (but not zero - pensioners still have a positive effect on the economy). I suspect that there are quite a few people who would have sold up and moved to Spain or wherever that are now staying put. There are probably also a fair few that will have moved back.

Aside from any of this, it doesn’t take into account internal migration which is likely to dwarf external factors.

Generally, people will not migrate for work unless there are vacancies in the first place.

Yes, I think this is also where the ‘lump of labour’ fallacy comes in to play and the assumption that there are a fixed number of jobs to start with.

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