UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

Oh, hadn’t noticed

Just answer the question.

Mate, he’s a fucking troll. You’ve been perfectly clear, and anyone with any sense knows the difference between a racist insult and calling someone gammon. His only intention here is to wind people up. If we all just ignore him, he’ll go away.

We are talking about the difference between hating someone because of an innate, unchangeable fact of their biology, and hating someone because of how they behave and the opinions they hold.

I suppose at the end of the day, Gammons gonna Gammon. It takes a special kind of lack of self-awareness to occupy the privileged position of being statistically the least oppressed demographic in the UK, and declare themselves the victim of racism, because other people have objected to their racist opinion - yes, the one they expressed loudly and forcefully until they were red in the face.

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Fun fact, I had no idea what gammon was until my mate from Bolton started talking about it circa 2007.

It just isn’t a thing in Oz.

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I have.

Why dont you actually read and understand what’s been said?

Now give me a link or reference to something that ssys the term is racist. Prove your position has some factual background to it rather than your poorly informed opinion or rhetoric from some RW loon.

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Because he is spamming the forum with the same question about skin colour, and I was responding to state that gammon is not a pejorative for skin colour but rather for the behaviour of whoever is in the skin.

Well it depends on who is actually being ignorant and bigoted in this scenario. Punching up or down comes into it also

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From this article

Being a gammon is about having a particular set of right-wing beliefs that are commonly held by angry, middle-aged white men with faces all puffy and red from their dangerously high blood pressure. It is more about the views held than the skin colour or gender, but gammons are virtually always white men. More than that, though, they feel hard done-by even though their lives are actually pretty comfortable — and they want something done about it.

They don’t know quite what, but if it involves declaring war, kicking out all the foreigners, or bringing back capital punishment, then it’s probably along the right lines. They just want more and more, and they want to make sure that anyone who isn’t like them has less and less. They cannot imagine a world in which everyone benefits. They are stuck in the past.

They always assume there is a simple solution to any problem, and it’s always one-sided and determined to punish somebody, even when there is nothing to be punished for. They are hell-bent on revenge for an injustice they never experienced. They are full of white, male aggression, but they never lived up to being the superior specimens they imagined themselves to be. For they never really believed that they were oppressed, they just used their whiteness as a shield to hide their inadequacies. A gammon is simply a frustrated old white man who failed to meet his own expectations, and now he’s taking it out on the rest of the world.

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I don’t think it is particularly interesting. Conservatives (in the broader sense, not the British party) love nothing more than raising up someone from a demo they demean who lives for pulling up the ladder behind them and spitting on the people left behind.

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More to the point, trumpeting elevating such leaders while ignoring the structural inequalities that prevent others from achieving the same levels of success is just virtue signalling no?

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Yeah it is a cynical defense against criticisms of what they stand for. It’s the organizational equivalent of “Im not racist, I have a black friend.” It is a shame so many people seem to buy it.

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I do like the fact that Badenoch considers herself middle class…

After 1 day working at McDonald’s.

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You’ve got it wrong…

She said ‘working class’.

She is as middle class as they come.

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Anyone watch Laura yesterday?

I thought her sneering about class was fucking disgusting.

The UK needs a revolution.

Off with their heads.

Clarkson first.

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Katy Balls has her finger on the Tory pulse (if they have a heart), given her role at the Spectator.

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No you haven’t. I’ll try again for the Nth time.

Is it a derogatory terms?
Is it based on skin colour?

As previous you won’t answer because you know you’re absolutely bang dead on this one.

Can I point out that an opinion piece is absolutely cast iron fact? Thanks.

At this point, this is trolling. Take a day off.

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