UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

I’m sad to see her go. Noble of her, but way too much fuss was made over it. Ideally she would have apologized, paid the outstanding tax, made a charitable donation or something like that, and then everyone would have moved forward.

If it was an honest mistake, it’s even worse that she stood down. If it was a deliberate ‘mistake’ to pay less, then that’s no mistake at all, and is a bit more serious.

Ideally Labour uses this as an opportunity to scrutinize housing arrangements for all MPs and spearheads a move to clean everything up. Some of them definitely have their noses in the trough and are bending the rules way beyond anything that Raynor did.

It all needs to be curtailed, with the benefit of not only stopping the practice of literally feathering one’s own nest, but to also start to win favor with the public by being above board and doing the right thing.

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I think it was the right step - ‘do the honourable thing’. She will be back in Cabinet, but needs a little time to do penance, including the remediation you suggest. The UK is drifting into economic crisis, and if the government is not trusted to being doing what is necessary, and that trusted that that which they are doing is necessary, it will be disastrous. Rayner did the equivalent of what Cummings did during covid, but is resigning rather than let the ‘one law for them, not us’ idea fester.

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This is consistent across the entire west - there has been a consistent multidecade continuous drop in crime and while through the same period people have perceived there to be an increase. It is true that data may not always tell the full or even right story, but perception is very often completely intendent from reality.

This has certainly been the common reasonable person’s position of the situation in the US over the past 10 years or so. The other explanation though is that people are getting signals that these crimes of disorder are a problem that dont reflect their reality. 24 hours news and social media is an issue, but we also see a lot of the perception of crime driven by how corporations behave. When they hire increased private security, and lock up items on the shelf we are left to assume they are beset by a theft issue. Retailers and retail trade groups have been happy to tell that story but it just isnt true. Retailers have laundered losses related to logistical issues under a category they have been allowed to incorrectly represent as being due to theft and everyone is content to run with that because its a story that connects a lot of dots for people so easy for people to believe. It becomes this big positive feedback loop where people are responding to other people acting like crime is rampant when it actually isnt.

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As you know, I was a big supporter of Corbyn, and I’m currently reading James O’Brien’s book on Britain, detailing the stories of ten individuals who are culpable for the mess were in. The chapter on Corbyn was a tough read, and I’m not sure I can really argue with the case he puts forward.

In summary, Corbyn was brilliant if you were already in the tent, but an appalling candidate if you weren’t. Yes, he bought a lot of people to the party, but he also drove many more away, and his idea of leadership was to hold rallies shouting slogans at people who already agreed with him. He was always going to get absolutely destroyed by the right wing press, and while probably wasn’t anti-semetic, his eagerness to adopt any progressive cause and refusal to do his diligence, led to him sharing stages and praising people who undoubtedly were.

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Deck chairs and titanic.

They need to get a grip and make real change not just rhetoric. Or they waste a mandate as Boris Johnson did.

I didn’t know

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Talking of crime and poverty there was a reportage on the wave of jelly cats being stolen in England.
It really has become horrific over there.

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I don’t think Jeremy Corbyn antisemitic.

Just watched Sunday politics and Laura Kuenssberg’s interview with Nigel Farage. She did actually get one honest answer from him. He admitted that his biggest problem is that they haven’t a single person in the party who has any experience of government… apart of course from Nadine Dorries. God help us all.

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Just wondering when the wall-to-wall media coverage starts…

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He also probably shouldn’t have put his three other Kent properties as assets of his company.

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I doubt the Labour party had too many when they were re-elected but that’s turned out ok…

Oh, hang on a minute…

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It’s the same shit stunt he did with expenses. He’s the first to call out MP’s taking the piss or doing something wrong (which they should rightly be punished for) yet the slimy excuse is up to his armpits in “playing the rules”. He claimed over £2m in expenses as an MEP and that might be without putting his wife/ partner on the books as his secretary.

If anyone wants to say MP’s are in the trough I’d at least suggest there’s a sliding scale with this creature at the bottom of it.

That said if anyone could synthesise his non stick ability they’d make a fortune.

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… didn’t do a day’s fucking work for it. I remember there was an issue over illegal fishing in Scottish waters and he didn’t even turn up for the meeting.

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Not the most convenient place to hold a meeting, to be fair.

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He used a line the other day about ordinary people (maybe it was working people).

Anyways…if you believe the cunt from Dulwich College who worked in the City has your best interests at heart, you deserve Mad Nads and Andrea fucking Jenkyns.

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It was worse than that. He didn’t turn up for the vote on the fishing issue he had spent years criticising the EU over, and his vote (and those of his colleagues) would have been decisive in getting the very thing he was campaigning for.

The point is that he didn’t want the fishing issue resolved - even in his favour - through democratic means. He wanted the issue to remain unresolved so he could use it as a stick to beat the EU with.

This is why anyone who thinks that getting Farage into number 10 is going to solve the small boats issue is in for a nasty shock. Farage has no interest in stopping immigration. He needs immigration.

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Latest news is that Farage doesn’t own a house in Clacton. His partner happened to buy a house in Clacton by pure chance and he can now “borrow” it.

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Strange how real stench never leaves the nostrils eh

Revealed: how Boris Johnson traded PM contacts for global business deals

Story by Harry Davies, Henry Dyer and Pippa Crerar


There are more than 1,800 files in the leak of material from Boris Johnson’s private office.

A trove of leaked data from Boris Johnson’s private office reveals how the former prime minister has been profiting from contacts and influence he gained in office in a possible breach of ethics and lobbying rules.

The Boris Files contain emails, letters, invoices, speeches and business contracts. They shine a spotlight on the inner workings of a publicly subsidised company Johnson established after leaving Downing Street in September 2022.

The trove reveals how Johnson has used the company to manage an array of highly paid jobs and business ventures. They raise questions for the former Conservative leader about whether he has breached “revolving door” rules governing post-ministerial careers.

The revelations have echoes of the Greensill Capital lobbying scandal that embroiled one of Johnson’s predecessors, David Cameron. They may also spark questions about the taxpayer-funded allowance that former prime ministers get to run their private offices.

Related: What are the Boris Files and what do they reveal about former PM’s conduct?

There are more than 1,800 files in the cache, including some that date back to Johnson’s tenure in Downing Street. The Guardian is the only UK media organisation known to have viewed the trove.

The files reveal:

The files were obtained by Distributed Denial of Secrets (DDoS), a US-registered non-profit that archives leaked and hacked documents.

DDoS told the Guardian it did not know the provenance of the leak. However, the appearance of the data on its servers will raise inevitable questions about a breach of security at the former prime minister’s office.

The trove mostly postdates Johnson’s term as prime minister, covering a period between September 2022 and July 2024, although it also contains some documents produced when he was in Downing Street.

Disclosures about how Johnson has forged a lucrative career in the private sector throw into sharp relief a little-known scheme that allows former UK prime ministers to claim government money to pay for expenses “arising from their special position in public life”.

The annual six-figure payment, known as the public duty costs allowance (PDCA), is a subsidy intended to support an ex-PM’s public duties. It is not meant to be used for private or commercial activities.

The files raise questions about whether Johnson has blurred these lines while running the Office of Boris Johnson, a limited company established a month after he left Downing Street.

A senior Cabinet Office source confirmed that Johnson has claimed funds under the scheme to pay for staff salaries in his private office. Official data shows he has claimed £182,000 in PDCA payments since leaving government.

Johnson’s office, the leak reveals, has played a central role in managing his commercial endeavours. These include deals with Daily Mail and GB News, and a globe-trotting career giving speeches for deep-pocketed clients.

The cache of files suggest that between October 2022 and May 2024, Johnson was paid approximately £5.1m for 34 speeches. The engagements typically earn him hundreds of thousands of pounds, as well as generous expenses to cover first-class flights and stays in five-star hotels for him and his staff.

It is not unusual or against any rules for former prime ministers to travel the world delivering paid speeches, but there are restrictions on business activities they can undertake after leaving government.

These include prohibitions on lobbying contacts developed while in office in foreign governments and commercial organisations. Johnson was reminded of these rules by an official watchdog on the day he left Downing Street.

Revelations from the Boris Files will place pressure on Johnson to explain how some of his recent contacts with foreign governments on behalf of commercial interest fall within the rules

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