UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

I am sure your feedback to me, was about holding a discussion in an understanding manner. I don’t think you are stupid, so either I am wrong or you are trying to find anything that you can pull me up on. What is it? I don’t expect an answer.

“Dude” are you being serious. Honestly, you read my post, went through all the possible intentions/meaning of my post, came up with your interpretation and then decided to post what you concluded?! On the back of a post where you asked for more understanding and tolerance, from me.
I responded to your post, reflecting on my experience from some posters on the Forum and you have literally just proved my point.

Well congratulations, you have successfully challenged an opinion of mine. I genuinely hold my hands up and declare that I was wrong… You are stupid. :laughing:

:+1:t2:

What on earth are you talking about?

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I wouldn’t presume it was, but I think that’s the angle that Reform are going for - get back to work you lazy fuckers.

So many of their policies are pushing the idea that that person over there is getting some kind of preferential treatment that you, the honest hardworking, white working class man, aren’t getting - while pushing an economic agenda that would just funnel more money the already very wealthy. I wish more people would see through it.

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I think all the above points are valid. Everyone has a different mindset, Career, preference, etc.
Whilst I believe studies can provide us with a better understanding, it is impossible to cover every variable.
There are roles, lived circumstances where working from home is beneficial. I have had experience with call handlers where I can hear their children in the back ground and they have actually apologised. This doesn’t bother me, I can assume that working from home is beneficial for them. Reduces the stress of paying for/arranging child minders and it also allows for the parent to build a bond. At the same time I can imagine there are people where this environment doesn’t suit them.

Personally, I believe I have a career that suits me both mentally and also for productivity. I have a responsibility to be on Site, to manage other people. I need that structure. Mentally, it can be stressful but in a challenging/rewarding way.
If I worked from home, I know I would find excuses, get distracted and put things off.

So, in my “opinion”, without knowing all the in’s and outs, I can see why a Government would want to encourage workers to travel to a workplace rather than from home. However, this should not be forced and it also should not be stereotyped that people working from home are “Shirking”.
As I have said, there are so many different variables to consider, the predominant one being the Employee.

yep.

we are in a race to the bottom right now on so many levels.

your point circles back to my point about having less empathy for opposing opinions… if all you know about ‘them’ is what you see online…

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An honest question, are you not guilty of pushing your own agenda?
I do not agree with this suggested policy of theirs but I judge it on its merit, not a preconception.

I could argue that you are just as guilty. Do you not push the narrative that they are getting preferential treatment, that you the honest, informed Voter is not getting?

This is not a dig, just thought it was worth reflecting on.

Came here for some juicy Mandy gossip, but find it’s just the usual bickering.
Boo! :worried:

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The stats absolutely backed that up, but you have to bear in mind that many non-essential jobs were furloughed. You can’t compare it easily with other periods.

It’s also difficult to compare jobs that require a physical presence, such as manufacturing and construction, with those that can be done remotely, as the causes of downtime are very different.

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Just on this. I used to work for a massive US based engineering firm that bought up design consultancies here in the UK. After a couple years of “bedding in” we were told that we had to package and send 20% of our work to offices in India. That was purely for profit reasons. We could charge the UK rate for that person while the costs were at the far cheaper rates from India.

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Funny thing with Reform is they spout this shit, then advertise for a regional campaign manager, or something of that ilk, and say it’s a “working from home role with some local travel required”.

Same stunt with the Chagos Islands now too.

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What?

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They’re such hypocrites, on top of all that other shit they espouse, yet all some people want to see or hear about is “immigrants”.

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Very much.

So I asked someone yesterday who they would deport? That was following a post that said they would deport all illegal immigrants.

The response I got was, “all Muslims”

Stunned by the response to be honest, both by what they said but also how open it was.

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Yes, such crude imbecility :slightly_frowning_face:

Me too. WFH though so no time to comment properly. Too busy! :rofl:

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speaking of hypocrites…

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It’s apparently a three way race with Green’s leading the two main polls taken. Below taken from Rob Ford’s blog.

"And that story is: the race is a dead heat, a statistical three way tie going into the final days.

Omnisis, who published over the weekend, have the Greens narrowly ahead on 33%, Reform on 29% and Labour on 26%, but they also have a huge number of undecided voters, outnumbering committed supporters for any party.

Opinium, who published on Tuesday evening, have the race Greens 28% Labour 28% Reform 27%, though among voters who are most likely to vote the Greens hold a narrow two point lead (30-28-28).

All of these differences are well within the margins of error in a constituency poll,"

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