not asking you to produce any stats, im happy to take your word for gospel, but, did the stats back it up in reality?
im refering in particular, to local government and infrastructure services in Victoria, and i can easily say that my lived experience ( i understand the implications) are very very much the opposite.
This is from SM. Shah Lalon Amin wrote:
Muslims Taking Over the UK?
I never thought Iâd have to write this. But I keep seeing people say Muslims are trying to take over the UK, bring in Sharia law, or push the country toward civil war. And I know some of that fear feels real. So Iâm speaking plainly, not to argue, not to attack, just to bring this back to reality.
This is not a Muslim-majority country. It is a parliamentary democracy and a country with Christian heritage. Laws are made by elected representatives. Muslims make up around 6â7% of the population in a country of roughly 70 million people. There is no legal, political, or demographic pathway for replacing British law with any religious law. That isnât secretly unfolding. It isnât slowly building. It isnât a hidden long-term plan.
The average Muslim in Britain does not spend their time plotting political change. There are no secret strategy meetings. No takeover conversations. No coordinated agenda. And no, we donât have some secret WhatsApp group discussing whoâs arriving by boat next week. The only WhatsApp groups we have are about exam results, family gossip, and whoâs bringing dessert for Ramadan.
When Muslims get together, the conversations are painfully ordinary. Football results. Whoâs top of the league. Ronaldo vs Messi debates. The cost of living. Mortgage rates. Trump being unpredictable. Childrenâs school reports. Business worries. Holiday plans. During Ramadan, itâs fasting and food. Thatâs the reality. Thatâs because we are British, our daily lives look very similar to the average person in this country.
What people call âSharia courtsâ in the UK are religious councils that mostly deal with marriage and divorce paperwork or mediation. They cannot override British courts. They cannot enforce criminal punishments. They cannot replace Parliament. If anything conflicts with UK law, UK law wins every single time. Itâs no different in principle from Jewish Beth Din courts that handle religious matters within British law. Religious arbitration exists under the legal system. It does not replace it.
Yes, many asylum arrivals are young men. Dangerous journeys are often made by the strongest family member first so they can seek safety and claim asylum and if approved, reunite with their families legally. This pattern has been seen throughout migration history.
Wanting secure borders is reasonable. Wanting efficient processing is reasonable. Criminal behaviour should be punished. But thatâs immigration policy, not proof of a coordinated religious invasion.
Sometimes I hear people say, âWe want our country back,â or âWe just want to protect our country.â I understand that feeling. Wanting safety, stability, and a sense of identity isnât wrong. But Britain hasnât been taken. It hasnât been stolen. Itâs still here. Its laws, institutions, culture, and democracy are intact. Protecting a country doesnât mean hating your neighbours, it means upholding fairness, rule of law, and shared values.
There is no secret Muslim lobby running Westminster. British Muslims are not politically unified, do not vote as one bloc, and do not answer to a central authority. Most British Muslims are doing what everyone else is doing: working, paying taxes, raising children, worrying about bills, hoping their kids succeed, wanting safe streets and a stable country. We donât want to change Britain into something else. We are part of Britain.
You can want law and order. You can want borders controlled. You can want your country protected. Thatâs fair.
But if anti-Muslim panic exists on your screen and nowhere in your real life, thatâs not societyâ thatâs an algorithm selling you fear.
You suggest Reformâs policies are pushing the idea that, that person over there is getting preferential treatment over âthe honest hard working, white working class man, arenât gettingâ.
Yet at the same time you push your own ideas of being hard done by to support your own narratives.
As I said, it was not a dig. I just felt there were similarities between the faults/attitude of the people you are calling out and your own. Promoting your cause, by getting people to feel hard done by, because of another demographic allegedly receiving preferential treatment.
To clarify, I am not defending Reform or any of their alleged policies.
I am not paranoid to believe there is a plot by any religious faith to undermine/try and force a political change. I live in a City with a high Muslim demographic so my lived experience/opinion is slightly different. I could provide sources contradicting your post, however, I would be judged by challenging your post and even though it only refers to a minority of a demographic I would be accused of tarring everyone of that demographic with the same brush which is completely untrue.
The true problem here is that we are all guilty of defining a demographic on a few bad eggs. We tend to focus on them rather than actually face upto the fact that in order to live in a civilised manner, it is critical that a lot of genuine and important questions are answered and issues which need to be addressed. Unfortunately these are commonly politicised, and sadly more often than not kicked down the road like a can.
OK. I was actually quoting figures for the UK. It may not be comparable.
Setting aside the small matter that Iâm not a political party likely to form the next government, Iâm struggling to understand the equivalence.
Is the comparison Reform saying âyour problems are because immigrants are taking your shareâ and me saying âyour problems are because the billions have taken all the moneyâ. Again we are into the realms of objective reality and not being entitled to your own truth.
Whatâs that ?
Social Media
I was going to look it up, but I was afraid it might be something rude.
Sado Masochism?
What have you got aganist saggy mandibles?
Out in force to besmirch Zach:
The stats in here are worth reading and digesting.
Greens win Gorton by-election!
You have to love this from the victor:
Spencer then apologises to any customers who have booked her in for plumbing jobs. âIâm heading to Parliament,â she says.
Good for them.
I see this as a very positive thingâŚand if Starmer falls, so be it.
Obviously you donât need any plumbing work done.
Lets hope she can flush all the shite out of Westminster!
Iâve got a legend of a plumber.
After I drilled a flooring screw through a heating pipe and had to rip up some new parquetry as a result, every phone call begins like thisâŚ
âHello mate, itâs SBYM.â
âAlright cobber, what have you done now?â
I think I posted about this in the DIY threadâŚ