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Starmer should just boot her.
Upon taking office Labour needed to be absolutely squeakiest clean. There have been too many of these stories.
Forever would be good
Saw this on the BBC recently. Puts me in mind of the number of parents Iâve heard say (or similar) âWait till you get to school, the teachers will make you behave!â Youâve already lost. Like the parents who wonât take the dummies off their kids because theyâll cry. Their fault for giving them to them in the first place. Parenting is dead easy if you stick to a simple rule, never make a threat you wonât carry out. And by threat I donât mean beatings and chimneys. Goes absolutely hand in hand with the other parent classic âIf I have to tell you one more timeâ What, youâll say it again?
Case in point. I was in an IT suite earlier today with a group of kids. They were videoing some news interviews and I was imaging computers. Iâm the only adult in the room. One of the kids who wasnât involved for 19 seconds started humming, yeah dead funny. A few others joined in. Me âYou can be in here doing fun things with videos but we wonât be having any humming. If it continues, there will be troubleâ Silence, they went slowly back to the videos. Then Derek (probably) the knob starts humming. Me âOK, you obviously didnât realise I donât give second chances, what did I sayâ Girl infront of me âyou said we wouldnât be having any moreâŚâ and then she hummed. Sent her and Derek to the headâs office. The look on their faces was priceless. Rest of the kids had a great lesson and produced great content.
Anyway, if you childâs still in nappies in Nursery (without a good medical reason), youâre just a failure.
Not sure Iâd go that far, but itâs most definitely not the fault (or responsibility) of anyone other than the parents.
Regardless of any âitâs always someone elses faultâ counter argument
Apparently schools arenât allowed to call parents as it is unfair
"Grandfather Gavin Wise said the policy was âunfairâ.
"If the kidâs in school, thatâs what theyâre there for, to be looked after.
If they employed someone else to come in and do that for them, it shouldnât be a problem. Iâd say itâs part of the job."
You have basic jobs as a parent. Teach manners, independence, speech, co-operation, socialising etc. If you donât have the homeostatic fortitude to toilet train your child by nursery age, youâve failed that basic job.
ÂŁ10 to charity says Gavin Wise might be slightly younger than your usual grandfatherâŚ
Just checked, I was his age when my daughter was born!
Tell the truth, they all burst out laughing at you.
I certainly did
Yeah, itâs not what you say, itâs how you say it.
I know you love your kids, I hope they turn out okay!
No complaints so far
Senseless and rambling posts⌠if that is how you find them, then so be it.
I am more than happy to concede a point, agree to disagree or change my view if someone enlightens me.
Why do you have to make the âeven when youâve been proven wrongâ statement, I am Iâm not here to be right or wrong but to engage in discussion(s) about the state of the UK Politics, whether good or bad. Maybe, I misunderstood the point of this Thread.
Anyhow, thank you for your post
Fair enough.
Yes, RW politics has failed the UK massively over the last 14 years, and LW politics failed the UK over period before that and the RW failed the UK before that, so on. But yeah, beliefs asideâŚ.
Slate the crap out of the Tories all you like, but donât dismiss or define something you donât agree with as RW.
As for ir the rest of that post, you are again assuming that fixes are easy and should be yielding results straight off. I dont think the stuff that has been implemented already has been radical enough to jolt the system significantly andcas quickly as people would like. As much as that plays right into the hands of the RW press, it is also the right thing to do. We saw what being stupidly radical and downright dumb does to the economy when Truss did her thing.
If you read my post you will find that I am not expecting a quick fix, accept results wonât be easily achieved and I also am wise enough to understand, mistakes may be made. I have also stated, I want Labour/any Government to be successful.
My post to @mascot was regarding his doomsday attitude, Labour canât do anything, they have no moves, canât raise taxes/canât borrow money. Labour are going to fail and it is all the Tories fault, a comment that seems to be repeated far too easily on here.
As I have said, I couldnât give a fuck who is in power, whether they are considered left or right, as long as they turn around the countries and its peoples fortunes.
So can I ask what is it that you want from the current Government? Can I ask you what their plan is and can I ask whether you believe it is working or not?
Iâm not asking these questions to catch you out or trip you up.
and in other notes, Truss is upset with Starmer for saying that she did what she did
Her tenure is one of the worst decisions ever made.
I am still waiting for a Trading Places 2 movie to be created, where Mogg and Grove have a bet on how quick she can destroy the economy.
So, given that it took from 1994 (1993 was the year given over to the denial-anger-bargaining-depression cycle), and 1996 was the first year where there was anything but cuts - all in an environment that was more favourable in hindsight than it felt at the time - I think Starmerâs Labour will do very well to actually see any ability to do what they want in this election cycle. There is a very good chance they will end up doing all the hard and necessary work, and then get punished for it. Some new spendthrift from the right schools will come in for the Tories, and get to look brilliant for another cycle before the shine wears off.
That is a damned depressing place for a government to be - I could only hack it until early 1996.
Thank you for your post, a good insight which I will try to read into - still havenât had time to look into the Cato institute piece .
how old is ânursery ageâ? in UK?
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There hasnât been much to distinguish this version of the Labour Party from the Conservatives politically or economically thus far (although itâs still early days), but this is one clear demarcation between the two; bringing people together is better than the divisive, corrosive culture war politics of the right.
Even if that proved to be the only difference between the two main parties (it wonât), surely that would make any rational person prefer Labour to the Tory/Reform cretins?