And yet you didn’t provide any sources to your figures? Yes or no?
In your response you were calling my post moronic without me having the chance to back up my figures. The fact you referred to my posts as a plural, demonstrates a premeditated agenda. Further followed up in the above post quoted. Where again you didn’t provide any evidence to support this claim, so who is posting in bad faith.
You don’t have to agree with my posts, you don’t have to respond to my posts. So maybe next time just shake your head in private and move on with your day, and save us both some time.
Same with the Henry Nowak case, the first post was about the “violence” and condemning people weaponising his death.
I do not in anyway condone the violence, or that people are hijacking what should be a peaceful protest. But I do share your frustrations at the lack of condemnation, or at least why people aren’t questioning as to how this is allowed to happen on any street.
People seem more concerned about your terminology and dismissing any concerns because there are white people guilty of the same crime.
We have already discussed this. I will not contest the Homicide figures as I am unaware of any change in the method of recording.
However, regarding the MET and other forces seeing a drop in Knife crime, this could be attributed to a change in the system they use to record these incidents. The MET even acknowledge this in their annual review. It specifically states that the recent figures are not to be compared to previous years. The drop in figures coincides with the change in recording and so there is a good chance that the previous system was over reporting.
I genuinely hope that you/the figures are right and that the overall crime stats are a true reflection against previous years. Unfortunately, I remain sceptical. In all my years, I have never witnessed as much crime on a daily basis as I do now.
I thought we’d agreed to stay away from each other in this thread.
The ONS are about as reliable as you get and as for your perception of crime making you feel they are untrustworthy, that exactly why it’s important to take ourselves out of the equations and look dispassionately at facts and data.
Human beings are pattern seeking animals and we’re are terrible at confirming our own biases. My mum is convinced she is psychic and that I call her when she thinks about me, ignoring all the times she thinks of me and I don’t ring. We are hardwired to decide what we think and then amplify/disregard evidence to prove to ourselves that we’re right.
I think you are seeing a lot of crime reported on social media etc, deciding there is a lot of crime, so then seeing that crime everywhere. We all do this. I have a friend in the village where I live convinced that crime is out of control in our community. I see very little crime, maybe some teenagers being loud and annoying, a bit of vandalism and a bit of drunkenness on a Saturday night, but on the whole it’s a very low crime area - and the statistics show that. And yet despite walking the same streets everyday, she has a totally different version of reality to me. One of the things I put this down to is that she reads the Mail and I wouldn’t use it to line a litter tray.
We all form our opinions based on influence, pressure and prejudice, and if you are interested in getting to the truth, you have disregard that and look to properly neutral sources.
I don’t know the exact details of how they record crimes, but there is a pressure on police to have a high clear up rate. Therefore there is a temptation to target certain things when it is easy to resolve.
There is a rule of thumb that the ONS uses which is “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.” It’s not that people fiddle the figures, but that more effort is made to meet the target rather than what the metric is meant to be measuring in the first place.
In what context was it the right decision? There isn’t a single metric that makes it right. That’s just a fact, it’s not a matter of opinion.
I won’t respond to the rest as you’re starting to drift into to your usual thing if twisting stuff. But I will say that your accusation of the “left” not listening etc. is wrong. Everyone is doing it. Brexit above being a prime example and illustrates my point on people being entrenched. They ignore facts and data, as already mentioned above.
What are the selecting criteria? Remember Reform want to remove Indefinite Leave to Remain. So if they were in government and do that how do they select who stays and who has to leave?
And just a heads up. This would be an almighty legal shit show. Guess who is making money off of that.
So by removing ILR, everyone that has been granted that is instantly in limbo until some criteria are in place that decides whether that means they can stay in the UK. What are those criteria?
Interesting view. I can’t get past the utter chaos it would create though. And as I said the selection criteria is a shit show in waiting and that’s before you get into anything sinister.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned on here, but presumably there will be marches and riots against young white people because they are clearly all sadistic monsters:
