UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

Without people feeling that weight of judgement how does society progress?

Take slavery. There is an assumption that as slavery is such an obvious moral wrong, it was dead easy to get rid of, but we forget that in the 18th century slavery was not only mainstream - it was by many people considered to be the natural order. For slavery to end a lot of people had to be brought round to understand its immorality and I’m not sure how that happens without a certain amount of judgement being directed towards its proponents.

That sense of approval/disapproval, whether felt or directed, has been a major shaper of societies for 200,000 years. There are behaviours that you approve/disapprove of, and the idea that you can go through life never judging people or making assumptions about their character is not only ridiculous, it’s kind of silly to want to.

I’ve just come over from another thread. So what’s the crack here then?maybe someone could sum up the political majority in here? Is it an equal split of opinions or more to the left or right generally?

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Well, in summary…
If you’re not actively championing sailors, single sex toilets, just stop oil redecorating projects and pretty much every other minority group (except donkeys), then you’re clearly a Daily Mail reading extreme right wing racist.
Where does that put you?

I think sailors are generally ok really… I used to live in Portsmouth and things did kick off a bit on Saturday nights mind you…

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I thought about writing something similar, from the opposite point of view, then I thought no point just winding people up, be a grown up….

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Well, apparently @Mascot dislikes donkeys.

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Fucking hate them. Manipulative sad-eyed floppy eared twats.

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You must have laughed when he died.

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Are you in favour of all these people staying here (the fighting age men entering the country illegally having crossed at least 4 safe countries and come from a country not at war, often on inflatable boats) ? Or are you only stating what you understand to be true. Genuine question.

Well, that’s my reading for tonight sorted.

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Maybe Mascot likes walking down a once nice street in a previously nice neighborhood to find a man from Eritrea taking a shit in a shop doorway? Just trying to see how the land lies.

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I like the cut of your jib.

mate, 2 things…

  1. the above never happened.

  2. stop reading those RW rags owned by Billionaires who’s only aim is to screw all the money out of Britain and cover their theft by making you angry about immigration..

Capiche…

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I’ve seen it with my own eyes mate more than once, so don’t spread your propaganda to me.
How about the illegal immigrant from Eritrea who raped an elderly man in a church yard for 20 mins did that never happen too?
Or the Afghan who raped a 12 year old girl in Nuneaton, also ‘far right’ fiction is it??

Did those things also never happen?

Think Bonus was being sarcastic mate, might be a good idea to delete it, we need to be organised if we’re going to take on the Oracle.

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Why would I delete first hand experience and reported facts that back up my position?

how do you know the man taking a dump in the doorway was from Eritrea?

or are you just assuming he was Eritrea?

maybe he was born and bred in London, but moved to your home town?

and finally…

dont call me a prick again…

I think i would make a good mod on here…

I didn’t call you a prick.

I don’t know the men I’ve seen shitting in public were illegal or from Eritrea. That’s absolutely true. Maybe they were born and bred Englishman who go to work everyday and contribute to a great society?

You ducked answering my questions about specific, demonstable issues created by men from these cultures, which I fully expected as it can’y be defended rationally. Even the BBC reported one of the examples I gave you.

Seeing as I don’t believe all immigration is equally good or bad. People can be wildly different from different parts of the world. Can I simply ask you this then.
Do you think immigration from the areas the ‘small boat’ economic migrants are coming from has:

a. Made England a better place
b. Made England a worse place
c. Made no difference