War in Iran : Trump's latest misadventure

Yai ! They are using helicopters too now at least

From now on, I think we can call this the Third Gulf War. No reason to wait for historians, this is what it will be called in a few years anyway, unless it gets some how even worse (possible).

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That has to be the fear. The Strait of Hormuz is too important.

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Yeah, that will be closed for quite a while.

It won’t take long for the world to go into meltdown if it does. I heard 3 weeks ( link posted above but it’s Facebook). No idea if that’s accurate. Scary if it is. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Trump people aren’t clued up enough on that.

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The Straitz of Hormuz is closed now and has been closed for days. I have literally posted the bombing of several oil tankers above, as well as reports of the world’s leading insurance companies refusing normal insurance. Apologies, they have war cover. But almost no one dares to sail and insurance cost has spiraled.

90% of shipping is down. But sure, 10 percent gets through.

Bahrain oil production 0 now, Iraqi oil production, off. And so on. Combine this with closure of the Strait and I hope everyone has been filling petrol the last few days.

But de facto, the Strait is currently (almost) closed.

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@Noo_Noo , i edited my post and feel the need to tag you now because I provided initially, some what incorect information, so feel the need to clarify.

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No worries.
Clock is ticking!

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According to local reports, dozens of expatriates have been arrested/detained in the gulf countries for filming and posting Iranian drone/missile attacks. The reports don’t specify how many have been arrested or their nationalities.

On a separate note, talked with a friend living in UAE last night. According to him foods, and other essentials are available there, but people in Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait have started to tighten the belts. Fun fact: Bahrain imports breads. They do have some bakeries, but most of the breads are imported.

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He does have to make up 14 years of cuts.

Plymouth navy was heavily damaged by these throughout the previous decade yet it seemed to be not that important until last week.

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The UK foreign office posted a specific warning against doing this. Redirecting...

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Yes, and it’s not like it is Labour’s fault as such, it is a combined Con-Labour (governmental parties) thing, just like in most western European countries. But the public are not usually informed, so will blame specific parties, always.

But it is still Starmer and Labour’s fault too, as much has been said about his “Labour is going to be strongly in favour of spending much, much more on defence, but only after the next election when we are no longer in power” nonsense.

And before anyway tries to arrest me about increased defence spending, yes, I know. But it is very little and totally enforced by Trump and Russia and far from what the UK’s Armed Forces needs to be able to defend British interests. At current anyway. Rearmament takes many years, both in building what you procure and training people and adjusting culture, when you expand your volume.
I mean, this is not serious, at all and totally indefensible during these times. It’s beyond ridiculous so not much more to be said about it, other than it is geopolitically suicidal during these times.

And the Greens will be way worse, given their brilliliant security politics (heavy sarcasm, I hope this is noted).
Reform, I don’t know, but they would destroy the country in other ways.

Good. They should be heavily fined, if they are filiming air defence or anything similar to that.
In general, tourists should get the f out and stop treating it as a game for the rich to observe.

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You might want to blame the Lib Dem’s and Reform considering half that party is the Conservatives who made these cuts as well.

The question you have to ask is it or was it in the interests of the UK to target Iran? Personally I think there were far better and strategic ways but I assume they expected a repeat of Venezuela, another country like Cuba that has of no interest to the UK.

You can say it’s appeasement but it’s used too easily a bit like any fascist action is labelled as Hitler. The US of course were very fond of appeasement until about 1941 if that example wants to be used.

I see this more in the case of Vietnam sadly. It’s certainly actions that have no interest in the people of Iran.

Of course regarding Ukraine it’s the one that Donald doesn’t seem to have much interest in, so I don’t think the UK needs lectures regarding this frankly.

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I blame primarily the governing parties, but sure, point taken about Lib Dems and Reform (the latter I don’t take seriously anything they say, since they are demolishers and not builders).

It is absolutely not in the interest of the UK to attack Iran, if you thought I was some how insinuating that, I can assure you that it is the very opposite which is my opinion.

The point is just geopolitical irrelevance. The UK is bound for irrelevance and will be locked to pandering to Trump for the forseeable future, trying to save their special relationship, which does not exist in reality. The military weakness enforces a certain political behaviour…

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I think we agree just from different angles.

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Come on Matty. Be our Donald to the Galatasaray Mullahs…

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Yes, more or less. I am maybe a bit more stressed out than most, since I think it is very time sensitive, but yes, absolutely.
Trump and the US, is moving so fast, there isn’t much time to prepare for not having to rely on the US, but I observe no political rush to prepare for the “worst” in the UK.