War in Iran : Trump's latest misadventure

They have a mutual defence treaty. Pakistan actually condemned the war, as one of the few regional states, but when Iran then attacks KSA, they have a problem.

This entire drama, it has WW1 tendencies with overlapping alliances. But I suppose everyone by now has heard by yapping on about the great potential this war has to drag in unwilling combatants, because in the end; they may calculate they have to join.

China won’t take it lightly if Pakistan joins Saudi’s in attacking Iran. This kills CPEC totally and puts a lot of chinese investment in Pakistan at risk.

Pakistan were played into that deal by the Saudis. It’s not like Saudis ever really needed Pakistan’s military help. Look at all the cynical world leaders worldwide.

Lithuania :exploding_head:

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Wouldn’t China benefit from a ropey oil crisis in the Middle East?

Also Donald’s daddy Putin but well let’s not go there.

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did trump just say Starmer is no winston churchill…hahahahaha

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Yes, swans are free.

Here are more details for you. US would not need their help ofc, but you must remember, as I have said before, that Lithuania is a front-state bordering Russia and most at risk if Russia gets out of the war successfully.
This makes close ties to US absolutely imperrative for their National Security for obvious reasons (those obvious reasons are that EUR states cannot defend them).

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How would China benefit from a surging oil price when it has to depend almost entirely on imports.

Well firstly they have a stockpile and secondary they still trade with Donald’s Daddy.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/china-imports-most-energy-is-best-placed-iran-2026-03-03/

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I am aware that some don’t read what I write or maybe don’t take it seriously, but I happen to know what I am talking about when it comes to this can of worms that is now opened. Iranian retaliation has made it impossible for many states to stay out and it will bring in more unless Iran extremely swiftly changes strategy.

Again, here are overlapping ties and alliances. Everyone must protect their CORE interests, when International Law no longer applies. Core interests are of course fundamental Security.

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  1. China has a huge stockpile, but it also has a huge demand to keep its economy running.
  2. China gets most of its energy from Australia and Russia, but those prices will also rise.

China will be safe, or even beneficiary in the short-term, but they will feel the pinch at some point.

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Some Iranian installation was completely obliterated. It looks like a large compound. I don’t know which target this was, so not really super news worthy other than as a demonstration of what is happening.

Clearly pinpoint strikes these (but they too, of course, cause CivCas when the priority is to obliterate a large compound).

Just think both countries are a lot safer and considering Iran is currently isolated and it doesn’t really benefit China or Russia to involve themselves it’s not going be a massively protracted fight I would assume. Yes you may see a resurgent of some force like ISIS but I doubt the US want a prolonged conflict.

However who knows short term and probably for a year China are fine, look that’s how I currently see it. I could be proven wrong but China and Russia probably see themselves as best keeping each other on side.

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(Reuters) - Here are statistics released by Gulf defence ministries on drones and missiles that Iran has fired at their territories so far:

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES:

Ballistic missiles:

186 ballistic missiles detected

172 intercepted

13 fell into the sea

1 landed on UAE territory

Drones:

812 drones detected

755 intercepted

57 fell within UAE territory

QATAR

Ballistic missiles:

101 ballisistic missles detected

98 intercepted

Drones:

39 drones detected

24 drones intercepted

Cruise missiles:

3 cruise missles detected and intercepted

Aircraft:

2 Sukhoi SU-24 aircraft detected and intercepted

BAHRAIN

Missiles:

73 missiles destroyed

Drones:

91 drones destroyed

KUWAIT

Ballistic missiles:

178 ballistic missiles monitored and intercepted

Drones:

384 drones monitored and intercepted

No data was available for Saudi Arabia and Oman.

Yeah, well, if anyone thinks Russia is happy with this, they are mistaken. Agree Ru will seek to stay out, but principally this is also partly because they can do nothing . What are they supposed to do ? Launch nuclear missiles ? Because they have no air force or army positioned to intervene.

Sure, surge in oil and gas prices will benefit Ru, but everything else about this war is a nightmare for the Kremlin.

They now only have North Korea and China left. And China also sells to western states, including Ukraine.

Believe me, Alexandr Dugin is not the only Russian intellectual who is stressed out by this war (he is the most delusional though)

And Exports. Iran was a major passage for China to send their exports to Europe, ME and Africa. As is Pakistan now too especially if Pakistan does joins the war against Iran. China might be importing gas, but it exports a lot of finished goods too via Iran and Pakistan.

If Pakistan are bound by the Agreement with Saudi and attack Iran, CPEC is now officially dead in the water too. That’s China’s fastest viable route now to reach the other markets. They’ll still retain their ties with Russia with respect to Energy. But the rest of the market will remain totally cut off from them.

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You weren’t wrong about a can of worms being opened ! :astonished_face:

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I mean, look at the explosions and the detrius. Of course that flying rubble will cause CivCas, when targets are located in built up areas.

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