Commenting on physical characteristics, racial or otherwise, is just not seen as impolite. Nicknames like ‘gordo’ or ‘flaco’ (fatty or skinny) are common. Outside Argentina, the vast majority of South Americans have some mix of non-European ancestry, so it is not the same near-binary it is in Europe. There is absolutely no way Garnacho meant his emoji use as anything but a compliment to Onana, albeit one that is at best racially-tinged - and frankly rather stupid.
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Suarez was uncooperative with the investigation, and lied several times when trying to explain his side. He also had a lot of prior trouble which contributed.
Completely irrelevant though, isn’t it? Whatever his previous conduct might have been, it’s not like there’s a track record of racist behaviour?
Of course it’s relevant. If a guy with prior convictions comes up in court for a crime that he had never committed before, he’s still going to get a longer sentence than a first offender for the same crime.
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I remember at the time a lot of stuff about how the club just abandoned him him to the process, and he was going to the hearing on his own, trying to understand what was going on in a second language.
How does that match up with the t-shirts and the squad rallying around him? I’m not buying it. Look, Suarez was a fantastic player, and still the best player that I personally have seen in a Liverpool shirt, but let’s not pretend he was an angel. He always had a touch of shithouse about him, and he didn’t act the greatest during the whole Evra episode. I don’t know that the club abandoned him during the process, it sounded more like Suarez wasn’t being cooperative, and changed his story/explanation multiple times, leading the FA to come down hard on him.
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I’m not going to the wall for it, maybe you’re right. It’s a long time ago now, but I just remember some stuff coming out that he’d been sent on his own for the hearing and was feeling a bit abandoned by the officials and senior people at the club. I don’t thinks that’s anything to do with the T-Shirts stuff.
I’d have to look back into it, I just don’t remember that at the time, I remember the squad and the club rallying around him, but he ultimately didn’t come across as credible.
Mind you - the FA and the British media had always had it out for Suarez, so who fucking knows? Just saying that the Garnacho/Bernardo/Cavani stuff aren’t apples to apples comparisons here, Suarez had previous and that’s what did for him in the end.
I think there was a good deal more of the squad rallying around him than the club as an organization. It was a surprise at the time that no one senior attended the hearing, nor club counsel. Comolli in particular was a disaster through that whole affair.
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I think that’s the story…the mark of how unprofessional an organization we were from top to bottom at the time. The support we gave him were the fucking t shirts. It really ended there, with something that Jim on your pub team could have knocked up for 50 quid on 3 days notice. In the stuff that mattered, the actual representation and PR, we were absent. And once we finally showed up in that domain we said all the wrong things and made matters worse. It was Comoli himself who belatedly hippoed his way into proceedings and personally tried to smooth things over by admitting to a version of events that was not reflective of what Luis had claimed (negro vs negrito), essentially giving the tribunal everything they needed to throw the book at Luis.
DC led an effort that somehow simultaneously earned us loads of bad PR and then offered up Luis for a long ban. Having to read stories about how he his time at the club needed reevaluating was the worst bit of having to play Toulouse
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Garnacho was born and raised in Madrid, for what it’s worth. His father is Spanish and his mother Argentine.
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Uruguay is somewhat similar to Argentina in that regard as well.
However as was mentioned , Garnacho is born and raised in Spain. He had no excuse , unless there is such a culture in Spain as well which wouldn’t surprise me.
But…
How long is this circus going to be sustainable?
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That doesn’t mean it’s relevant, it just means it’s practised elsewhere.
Okay terrific!
Let’s find out.
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Look how much it’s gone up in the last three years !
Does the debt including outstanding transfer commitments? I read something earlier in the week that they’ve got just under 400min those, although I don’t know if that’s $ or £
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It does. Says borrowings + net transfer fees - cash.
The Glazers bought United , loaded the debt on to the club (leveraged but out) , took dividends from United to the tune of several million a year (money which could have been used to repay the debt) , refused to sell. And refused to make any substantial improvements to the stadium/academy
I’m loving it.
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I think Goldbridge crashed YT…
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