When the shit hits the fan, and they've got the wrong man, that's Amorim!

[PeachesEnRegalia]

@Limiescouse

More bald heads than peaches in a house of mirrors

[RedOverTheWater]

@Limiescouse

@RedOverTheWater

Instead, he says we are going to suffer for a long time.

Not exactly Churcillian!

What else is he supposed to say?

The realism wasn’t necessarily wide of the mark, but he should balance that out and also offer hope. Something along the lines of his own version of getting them back on their perch. He can manage expectations with a blend of realism and hope. We are going to get there, but there’s a lot of work to do, that sort of thing.

All I heard about were the problems. Twice I think. To my mind it seemed small.

[Limiescouse]

He spoke a good amount about what he wants to see differently from the players. He’s clearly got a vision for what he wants this team to do, and isnt going to ETH it and try to find some milquetoast middle ground between his ideals and what he thinks the players can do. He is going to force them to do it the way he wants, and is just being clear that it isnt going to take overnight, and it is different enough to what they have been doing (we’re bought to do?) that some (lots?) may not get there.

[redalways]

@PeachesEnRegalia

He’d taken Mainz all the way to the Bundesliga, had taken a fallen BVB from mediocrity to breaking Bayern’s hold on the German league, and even challenged for the CL with them. Amorim has won the Portuguese league a couple of times with one of the biggest clubs in the country, and hasn’t done much of note in Europe.

When you put it in these terms it’s actually strikingly similar to Rafa pre-Liverpool.

[RedOverTheWater]

Hopefully it takes him ages, and hopefully the finances will be too tight for him to make the moves he would like, due to previous waste.

We’ll see what we’ve got in due course. Another Villa Boas, or another top manager coming through who will establish an identity and win the big prizes with them?

Hopefully the former.

[Iftikhar]

You got hope even in the depths of despair. Unless you support MU.

[redalways]

Is that Jovanovic in front of Ngog? I’m trying to figure out who’s in front of Reina without cheating and looking it up…

[GermanRed]

[Arminius]

You don’t recognize him? His mum is going to be livid

[Mascot]

@Arminius

I do think he is trying to set out some needed hard truths, while greatly underestimating the challenge involved in that. If the Club is genuine about expecting to begin to show progress largely with the existing stock of players, the difficulty he faces is that if does not self-evidently happen in fairly short order, someone needs to be the scapegoat.

That said, I do think there is some untapped potential in that squad. Just watching how Sancho and McTominay have flourished once away sets that out.

The trouble for any manager in his position is that he simultaneously needs the fans and the heirarchy to understand that this team is shit and it’s going to take time. At the same time he needs to keep the players onside enough to keep the wolf from the door.

It’s a really hard balance to get right. There is an additional problem for him in that I don’t see anyone in that side that he can hang his hat on to tide him over and do a job. Klopp had pros like Clyne, Allen, Lucas, Skrtel - never going to make the grade as he built his team, but could at least be relied on to tide him over. There are just too many toxic characters in that United dressing room.

[WeeJoe]

@Mascot

There is an additional problem for him in that I don’t see anyone in that side that he can hang his hat on to tide him over and do a job. Klopp had pros like Clyne, Allen, Lucas, Skrtel

He also had Bobby, Hendo, Milner, Can, Coutinho etc.

Come to think of it, he might have had better players that the current united !

[Mascot]

I’m on about the players that were obviously going to be moved on but would at least be professional and do a job for him.

Hendo, Bobby, Milner all were obviously going to be part of the team.

[Nobluff]

@POBox

I suffer you long time baby.

[mattyhurst]

Problem with that quote is it mind end up sticking.

We know that doubters into believers became Klopp’s epithet.

He was talking himself up last week about bringing dreams back. He’s a walking cliche.

[WeeJoe]

Yeah I knew you meant that. But looking at the United squad I also don’t see the characters/leaders like Hendo and Milner, or the quality like Bobby and Coutinho. I think Klopp might have had more to work with than the billion £ squad poor Amorim has inherited

[PeachesEnRegalia]

@Nobluff

@POBox

I suffer you long time baby.

[dalglish]

@Limiescouse

It’s Babel who amuses me in this pic

By far the most talented of that lot. It’s scary how shite that team was: Ngog, Poulson, Spearing, Konchesky are worse than the likes of Kvarme, Kipp and Ferri.

[Arminius]

Spearing wasn’t really a PL level player, just a trier from the academy who was fortunate or unfortunate enough to discover that wearing the red shirt.

[dalglish]

@Arminius

wasn’t really a PL level player

Applies to half that lineup!

[The_Phenom]

We’re mostly so bad in those long years.
Still, it took almost 3 decades for the ManUre to catch up with and slightly overtook us in top flight league titles.