What other clubs in the prem apart from City and now Newcastle can afford for things not to work out? How much of our approach is forced by financial constraints versus a deliberate financial strategy?
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United and Chelsea? That makes four and is a huge problem
If Chelsea keep buying like they do I wouldnât worry, Radcliffe and Glazers would be best for us taking over Man Utd.
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Henderson. But no one want him.
We should be looking at clubs like Brighton and going for their transfer targets as well.
Problem is we might pick one of the nine you never hear of again.
Brighton can make mistakes that may now change with Europe and the fact they get better.
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We can afford more mistakes than Brighton, thatâs for sure. But itâs the quality and experience that is different. Plus, the buyer. Weâre simply not buying from the same pool a lot of the time. When Brighton got a lot of these players, they probably werenât good enough to make the same impact as they would make here at that stage of their careers. Sure, there are âmistakesâ in football on a daily basis at every level. Players can surprise out of nowhere. Sometimes we will get those players earlier before a âBrightonâ in between. Itâs all good. We can discuss about our scouting and success over the years from different parts of the world, but Liverpoolâs recruitment has been quality for a while now.
The fact of the matter is Macallister is not the player they bought for 4m or would he have developed into the player we are buying if he had come straight here.
Be interesting to see now theyâve taken a step up how they manage it, clubs will want more cash in sales for example.
If we were signing the types of players Brighton are, our fans would freak.
Also for every mitoma there is a shite player they have bought
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We tried that model during the Rodgers era, first years under FSG. it failed miserably, although a select number of those players went on to have good careers playing European football.
Suso
Luis Alberto
Andre Wisdom
Martin Kelly
Joe Allen
Jonjo Shelvey
Fabio Borini
Aly Cissokho
even Balotelli was a bit of a bargain, but his head was too far gone at that point.
3 of those are lads who came through the academy and Aly Cissokho was an established pro who came on loan for a season. Not quite the same thing.
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youâre arguing semantics, but the Rodgers attempt to purchase large amounts of low-priced players which were able to perform at a high level wasnât that far off of what Brighton are doing.
Coutinho being the glaring example of a diamond in the rough. Luis Alberto and Suso doing respectably in their careers since departing us, as is/was Shelvey at Newcastle.
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Sorry mate, didnt mean that to come across as petty or anything and youâre right to point out Liverpool canât sign and develop players the same way a club like Brighton can.
The three most impressive players for Brighton this season who weâre all swooning over were Mac Allister, Caicedo and Mitoma and they were signed from Argentina, Ecuador and Japan respectively having never played in Europe and then loaned out to help their development and given time and patience when being brought into the first team. Itâs quite unique and not really even the same as us signing Coutinho who was starting at Inter Milan, a European power house, having already had a loan in Spain too.
Think the best example of us trying our hand at it might be when we signed Grujic under Klopp. Young lad Starting regularly in a smaller league but who they hoped would be in the first team squad quickly. Really similar to what Brighton are doing but the levels to then progress at Liverpool vs Brighton are very different. I think now Brighton are progressing and settling as a top half premier league side weâll likely see less of it. Hypothetical obviously but I bet Grujic would have made the grade at Brighton by being given opportunities and patience.
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We may not do it like Brighton but we are doing it in a different but pretty similar way by bringing players like Carvalho and Elliot who had hardly played at the top level prior and then develop them in the first team squad. Not a hit on them but based on their current abilities, they would not have gotten so many games at the top level if they were with Chelsea or the Manchester clubs⌠But we brought them in and gave them alot of games to develop
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Iâm hoping that we take advantage of that with us being in the Europa league next season. There should be a few games where we can start one of the younger players and give them a chance to show what they can do.
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Grujic a great example, but never looked like he thought he belonged here. Played well enough to give himself an opportunity but wasnât up to par. Part of the problem is the high expectations for results, itâs hard for a youngster to break into the first team here. If a player really doesnât shine at their first opportunity, and a loan spell⌠theyâre usually put in the shop window. Dom Solanke a recent example.
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I donât âwantâ to sell anyone, but there are a few who should be encouraged to find new homes. We can agree on most of them.
To put a name out there where there would be disagreement, I will say Thiago. I donât want to sell him, and if we keep him, great! He is a smashing player.
But I would not stand in his way if an offer came in.
The fitness record is a big reason. In addition to that, I see Trent as our main playmaker, stepping into the middle of the park in the inverted full back role, and bossing it.
I also think MacAllister will see a lot of the ball and knit things together for us.
I hope we sign three midfielders, letâs say MacAllister, Kone and Thuram. Iâm just not seeing a lot of minutes for all three of our old timers (Henderson, Fabinho and Thiago) if we also factor in the minutes Jones will play, as well as an emerging Bajcetic and Elliott. If one of the old guard is âsacrificedâ (ugh, wrong word) then Thiago is at the front of the line for me.
Fabinho can help bring Kone through, and Henderson can fill in and take on the Milner role - giving his all, sparingly, and keeping standards up in training and around the club.
How many opportunities did he exactly get ?
three seasons worth.
8 PL appearances in those 3 seasons.(overall 16) Most of which are off the bench. Not enough Iâd say.