The FSG Out position is increasingly an argument with reality.
Which owners in football would you rather have?
If your position is that you want Liverpool to spend more money, to what end? We already have possibly the best squad in Europe, and are going to win the league. If you still think we should be spending more money, how? Do you advocate cheating? Doing what City have done?
I think FSG should sell some of their stake to some local billionaire, preferably one who says he’s a fan of the club. Someone who can come in and take on the day-to-day of fixing the issues they’ve overlooked and investing their own considerable wealth.
I think we can all agree that would be a pretty risk-free thing to do. Can’t see how it would all go tits up, personally.
Well United fans are still backing Ratcliffe and Amorim…
Personally, I think FSG have really shown their NEGLIGENCE by not going into the game editor that I presume football has, and changing all our players attributes to 20, setting their injury proneness to 1 and giving us infinite cash.
League titles are all good and well, but we’ll never win the transfer window with these clowns.
FSG are a professional organization who’ve got huge experience in sports management.
We’ve seen Boehly come in without any strategy whatsoever and make scatterbrain signings basically asking for FFP regulations to be imposed against them. All the while no closer to building a stadium.
We’ve seen Kroenke’s splash 750m under Arteta and what they’ve got to show is one FA cup (Which was won by an Arsenal team under Aubamenyang. 750m being spent and not one further title since that spend. What that then does is that Arsenal will be coming under the FFP regulations soon. They can’t spend without selling for much longer.
We’ve seen the so called genius in Daniel Levy be catastrophic for Spurs.
People have mentioned Ratcliffe and United fucking up.
Teams like Aston Villa , Brighton have seemingly done an admirable job of player transfers but Brighton is a sell to buy or a buy to sell club. Villa will need to sell to buy too. Their sale of Duran points to that. And the jury’s still out on whether they’ll come afoul off PSR/FFP iff they don’t get UCL.
Man City has well , the 130 charges hanging over them. Pep looking like someone who’s been tired this season. Could be due to the 130 charges or can be due to his personal life. But it almost seems like he doesn’t have the energy to continue beyond this contract.
Who else. Bournemouth , they run a tight ship and make some good transfers and have a cracking manager.
Nottingham - They’ve spent money , got in trouble with FFP not so long back and there’s doubts on their owner. Also bigger clubs will keep calling for some of their better players.
Newcastle - They could spend. They’ve got the ability. Get the feeling that they are seeing which way the FFP case against City goes before they decide whether it’s worth going all in. At this point, They don’t need to win anything with Newcastle to keep their sportwashing enterprise running. They are much smarter than UAE in this regard. Wins don’t matter when they can get entrenched in Newcastle and just keep the club competitive and probably help to generate money for the city of Newcastle in the meantime.
I think some fans still don’t understand, it’s not about having rich owners but having responsible owners. It’s not having someone who can come in and bankroll spending after spending for no absolute necessity. It’s about having owners who want the club to survive and yet put together a team on and off the field capable of winning every season in and out. We have done that and while no owners are perfect, it is to FSG credit as much as to Klopp, now Slot and the squad and the management team that we achieved what we have and no reason with a good coach, that we cannot replicate our success again and again
Transfer window fans.
Me “who should we buy?”
Transfer window fans
I’ve been twitching to use that gif.
Yeah, that’s the thing that goes unnoticed these days. I’m a bit saddened that Chiesa will likely be a failure of transfer, that he will have spent a year or maybe two at Liverpool to basically get his fitness right before returning to Italy on loan or cut-price deal.
The rest of the lads, who are not of required quality but still work hard and contribute to this team, should actually be the subjects of interest of other clubs, so hopefully Hughes can raise a fair bit of cash by selling them.
I have more confidence in Chiesa kicking on at Liverpool now. Especially after your post.
Seriously though , Chiesa just needs time. When he’s ready to play back to back matches, that’s when we’ll see him at his best.
At this point , he might just be an impact sub but release him against a tiring team , him with his pace will get the opposition in trouble.
I hope that FSG be a bit more adventurous with their transfers. But they’ve got us competing and being the best legitimate team in the world. Not counting the likes of City and their illegal 130.
If the league gets wrapped up quickly, perhaps we will see more of Chiesa as we keep players fresh for the CL?
Although perhaps not as we are keen to give Mo every chance to break every record he can this season!
We’ll see if Chiesa is here next season, there is also the player side and his motivations.
Right now we obviously don’t evaluate him being in a state to compete for a lot of minutes and he might think that he’s lacked chances to build up his fitness.
I mean when we talk about our forwards, right now it seems that out of 6, only Gakpo is 100%.
But it cannot possibly be that way, because there is absolutely zero chance we sign 4-5 new forwards this summer.
We will certainly not want to have a summer where the following happens: Salah leaves on a free, we sell Nunez because he ain’t good enough, Diaz because of his age/contract/interest from Barca, Jota because he ain’t available enough, Chiesa because he’s having almost a non-existing season.
Every move that potentially happens has to be evaluated in the context of other movement as well. We cannot be so blind and just shout “let’s get rid of Jota”. Who will bloody stay?
If we want to have similar or better seasons, we need to have 5-6 serious forward options.
I don’t see Slot giving him many minutes lately, no? I’m afraid it’s indicative of his lack of trust in Chiesa. I hope Chiesa turns his Liverpool career around, of course, especially because he looks stoked to be there but I don’t see even the tiniest signs of encouragement in that regard.
Watching a four four two video yesterday about our win against City, it did strike me as to whether Chiesa’s absence is not just his fitness but also because he is still getting up to speed on his co-ordination with other players. It was really impressive to see how they work together to control games.
Red Sox fans have this complaint about FSG being stingy. Of course before they took over the Red Sox had not won a World Series in 100 years and since they took over they’ve won 4 titles, the most of any team in the 2000s.
Kind of a similar story for us. They’re on the verge of overseeing the second PL title win in 5 years, against sports washing cheats.
FSG aren’t sat there saying what we can spend on transfers. I think that’s a big misconception our fans have. They’re just ownership. They hire people to run their companies for them and those people will report to FSG with financial and performance based metrics. What FSG do very well is hire the best people, they’re very smart at getting those appointments right.
They essentially just want to told in a monthly meeting with our upper management that the line goes up. It’s up to people like Hughes to get contracts and signings sorted, no one at FSG will even have an input in that process.
People will flat out deny it, but the times under these owners when we have gone big large sections of the fan base has still reacted negatively criticizing them for not doing it right
Mo - We have the best front 3 in the world already. That is way too much money to spend on a 4th choice when we need a DM
Virgil - this is an embarrassing show of desperation to go that high on him after fucking it up first time
Dom - As above, but this time after missing out on Jude.
Popular TV shows often generate a level of toxicty among its original fan base because they invest so much in it that when the writers go in a different direction than they had imagined they lash out. So much about our transfer activity is like that.
There’s certainly the tactical aspect involved in Slot’s decision not to use Chiesa more often - no pre-season, general lack of fitness, injuries… All of that probably restricted his participation in trainings and forming understanding with his teammates.
However, I’m slowly getting to the point where I start asking if he’s simply good enough. He used to be a wonderful player but he’s never reached the same heights since injuring his ACL.
We as a fan base sometimes like to make excuses when we’re justifying certain decisions made by our club, which is understandable, but I was quite concerned last summer that Juventus were willing to let go of a player on a cheap, and that it seemed like our transfer gurus were trying to play smart by thinking they would “fix” a player who had suffered of the most serious injuries and had never played outside of Italy, where football is slower and less aggressive than in England.
Fast forward six months and he’s looking like one of the worst transfers the club has ever made. Has any player come back after such a horrible start, especially at his age and in his circumstances? Hopefully his Liverpool future will be incomparably kinder than his present but I wouldn’t be banking on him playing a significant part of this season.
That said, I think there are more pressing concerns with regards to strengthening the squad, starting with a centre forward and a left back, which are certainties at this point.
Steve Morgan reading this…
