I don’t know whether Kelleher would be any better than Adrian. I mean, it’s difficult to know isn’t it given he isn’t given any games? What I do know, however, is that I’d much rather see a youngster making the occasional mistake than watching Adrian fuck up time, after time, after time. It causes our team to collectively shit themselves. At least having a youngster in goal might make the team do their best to look after him and, if he makes a mistake, to make sure that their heads don’t go down so as to give him encouragement. With Adrian…they know there’s no fucking point in saying shit like, “don’t worry, it can happen to anyone” because they know that fuck ups are not isolated incidents with him.
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I have never been on the @Dutch side of the fence but at the same time I and a few others raised concerns about him as far back as the Newcastle game at home last season. As well as the major mistakes that he makes, which are many and varied, his mobility is also an issue. His footwork and reaction times are extremely slow and as such it gets him into positions where actually making the save is then not possible at the worst or makes save look more difficult than they really were which inexplicably results in ‘‘ooooh, what a world class save’’ etc. The general consensus to these concerns were ‘‘well he’s a number two so what can you expect’’.
We got a hammering yesterday and the whole team must take responsibility but some of those goals are saved by a decent keeper to keep us in the game. His footwork and reaction times make it look like goals are at times unstoppable but a keeper like Henderson or Romero stops some of those. He’s pretty darn awful and somehow has managed to collect a fistful of trophies in the process despite that.
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I’m guessing he drinks too much coffee as he looks like his brain is going 2 thousand mph stressing at the simplest thing,jittery.
I still maintain that with a keeper as dominant and established in his position as Alisson, Adrian is about the best you can expect.
All the teams with really good number twos, have got question marks over their number ones in some way. Maybe age, or ability, or a suspicious they might want to move on.
Put it this way there is no sales job that could be done on a really good keeper to convince them to come to LFC. You can’t intimate that if they do well they’ll challenge Becker. You can’t suggest they can win the shirt. You can’t give them the nod that Alisson is getting off in a year, or convince them to patient until he retires.
This is the problem with having a world class established number one. City have also got a really good number one, and their reserve keeper is a lot fucking worse than Adrian.
Where this starts to get really interesting is around Alisson’s injury record, which is quietly becoming a major issue. If he is going to be unavailable for ten games a season, then that’s a package (along with the domestic cups and hopefully a couple of CL dead rubbers) you can sell to a better reserve keeper. It’s all nods and winks and ‘I can’t promise, but…’, but you can see how coming to Liverpool starts to look a bit more appealing to a good keeper.
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So which overseas player aren’t we going to register then if we don’t move on one of the 18 non-home grown players? Any candidates?
Grujic is tall. Give him a pair of gloves and see how he does. Chance for a new career.
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We will keep him and he will play the next games, so time to accept this now and move on.
We will adjust the defense, the players will react 100% and do better and that’s it. No need to discuss this to death.
It is what it is now.
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This might not be a popular opinion, but I do not for the life of me understand why the ‘best defender in the world’ who is also the captain on the night, doesn’t sort this. It’s almost like the whole team has not noticed that the really boss goalkeeper who usually stands there is a different person.
If you look at the first goal, Robertson lobs the ball back to him from near the half way line at chest height. It doesn’t excuse the mistake, but for fucks sake don’t give the lad that to deal with four minutes into the game. It’s hardly going to help, is it.
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OK, lock the thread. Let’s all reconvene when he next makes another mistake and not discuss it. Can someone point me in the direction of a football forum?
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I agree, the team has to adjust to Adrian, support his strengths and not make his weaknesses even weaker. They have already shown last season that they can do it if everyone works together.
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All this playing out from the back malarkey makes me laugh. There’s plenty of PL defenders who can’t do it with any great competence as we witnessed in our first 3 games so why anyone expects Adrian to be able to is anyone’s guess.
Just don’t give him the fucking ball. Simple. He’s not a bad shot-stopper to be fair but don’t ask him to do things outside his comfort zone.
That said I’d have been looking to bring a keeper in if I was Jurgen, this fella could very easily finish our season in the next 6-8 weeks. 
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Alisson was out for about two months at the start of last season and we still won the league. I am totally relaxed and can not understand all the bitching about Adrian. But i guess some so called fans need their villans in the squad - the Lovrens, the Morenos, the Mignolets…
All y’all are kissing Klopp’ and Edwards asses all the time so why not criticize them for a change for making the decision to make Adrian #2 and not panic buying on deadline day?
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He’s a fucking professional footballer. If he can’t deal with chest level passes, he is in the wrong profession.
Hi. So-called fan here. Ready for my lesson in how to uncritically support the club.
Adrian was great, no problems at all for me. Couldn’t be happier with him as our number 2.
Thought our tactical set up and performance against Aston Villa was a-ma-zing! Love to see it, the boys were so unlucky.
Couldn’t fault any of the lads.
Everything was just wonderful.
How did I do? Hopefully enough to be considered a proper fan.
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BS, who are you to call me a so-called fan just because I think we need a better second goalkeeper? Even when we won all those matches I was clear for me that Adrian has a bad reaction time and horrible footwork. He did not make howlers in those matches but that is about it.
Now he makes them plus and the insecurity is written all over him what reflects on the whole defense. If Becker is out for a longer time that Klopp thinks and we still play Adrian over Kelleher
the attacking of the PL titel could be in real danger.
I really hope that Klopp won’t regret banking on Adrian as the second keeper this season. We have a run of utterly tough matches coming up after everyone comes back from those stupid internationals. Adrian will play every three days during three weeks, and will need to cut out his silly errors while remaining totally concentrated throughout.
Maybe it will be easier for him with some time ahead of him to prepare for that run of games. The other day, he was thrown in at short notice, that must not have been easy. It should also be noted that bar his first error which lead to the opener, he cannot do much on the other goals: a wonder-strike from Grealish, three deflections and two one-on-ones. Allisson could potentially have saved the one-on-ones, but the others? It’s only that bad error right at the start, which set the tone for the rest of the game, which goes on his account at 100%.
So, let’s hope that a run of games will bring the best out of the lad, that he’ll be able to raise his level and will also be better protected by his team-mates. Klopp and co need to take that into account and work on it. Fingers crossed! 
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I neither know the lad nor want to be critical… But to me, after he has had a career of mediocrity at best… he appears to want and embrace this ‘red carpet of fame’ he has suddenly found himself upon after the teams recent success and celebrity status that come with it… However, there has been a tremendous amount of hard work and heartbreak given by this team to get them where they are now… He would do well to remember that all we require from him in this hour need… instead of him strutting about on his ‘Hollywood Walk of Fame’ around his penalty box… is that he remains focused to the task at hand and repay the faith the club had in him, bringing him out of the wilderness… He seriously needs to just do the job that is required and keep us in the hunt until Allison returns…!!!
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Adrian isn’t good enough but he was a bit unlucky with 3 deflections - does Alisson save those? probably not.
OK he fucked up the 1st, the 2nd was a great finish but awful defending from Gomez.
Adrian was exposed a lot in that game. They had about 4 one on ones in the 2nd half.
The whole defence is a shambles at the moment. We got lucky v Arsenal when Lacazette went through one on one and Alisson saved it- on another day that goes in and we drop 2 points.
My old football manager used to say the ball has got past 10 other players before it reaches the keeper so look at how ball got through to keeper before we start moaning about the keeper.
That said Adrian doesn’t help himself with fuck ups like goal one. My mates a west ham season ticket holder and says Adrian will pull off a worldie one minute and boot the ball in his own net the next.
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If only he’d leathered that first ball upfield, we’d be basking in the glow of a 4-0 victory…
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