I can’t speak for anyone else but I would even though it would hurt, and I believe everyone else who says they would.
I would definitely walk away. As would Jürgen. Some of us have moral principles.
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It’s interesting peoples views on here regarding the Saudis
Here is an article on other companies they own, investing in and generally make money off, you know just in case you wanted to give them a swerve too
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Not hard for me personally.
You seem to be very fond of them on the other hand though, so I guess you’ll be patronising those businesses more?
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No I’m just interested to know - these guys are so bad and everybody will poo poo them but continue to spend money on the products which will eventually inflate their bottom line.
Maybe some people don’t realise that by spending £4 for a cuppa at Starbucks is indirectly causing human rights violations in Saudi Arabia.
I don’t trust the BBC to have accurate information
The whole world is sh*t by that logic. Somewhere somehow everything is related and everything you do can be rooted to something evil. One will not be able to defend anything by that logic.
- Football isn’t that important for many as some of the other things that would be such one cannot live without or have no feasible alternate option for them.
- Many wouldn’t be knowing that how their actions/ purchases would be indirectly contributing to something bad.
- Just because few of the things we knowingly/ unknowingly do wrong doesn’t mean we can continue doing for other aspects as well. It’s a choice to stop and draw a line somewhere which many I think would opt to take.
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Manager (Coach), Sporting Director, scouting etc need to be solved before they should look to buy players but I can’t see that all happen until the end of the year.
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For many of the reasons mentioned above, I actually feel sorry for Newcastle supporters and the club’s employees for being put in the position they are now in.
They just got lucky because of their abundance of oil deposits. The US govts have more than their share of blame for enabling them as well.
Directly or indirectly , we may all consume saudi Arabian products. Thats the necessary thing that cant be dodged anyway. But people have a choice on whether they should support a team which is owned by them and is used by them to sportwashing their crimes against humanity.
If being a fan of football club means that i have to accept that a club is being taken over by someone who is the anthesis of what the club represents , then it’s the club in name only.
If and when FSG decide to sell(which is looking all the more likely) , I hope they for one do their due diligence on the new owners.
Like i said before , for me… I will mostly be a passive watcher of football no longer invested into the team if FSG decide to sell to morally bankrupt persons. I don’t care if liverpool finish 10th (above everton though) for the rest of my life… As long as the owners represent the club’s values or try their best to represent the values of the club.
Also , you can be sure that Klopp would walk if we were to sell. He would have been offered much more money to manage a team like manchester United. But he chose us for what we represent to him.
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They’re sportwashing so they won’t do that.
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I think it’s been raised many times already on here, but a club like City would be the first to complain. When you are the big fish, you want everyone else to be, and remain, the small fish. You certainly don’t want to allow other fish to grow to your size and compete with you.
City want to stay at the top. They don’t want to share power with more clubs. Just as the super League would have created exclusivity and locked out other clubs from artificially growing like City have.
wanted to suggest a name to this thread but they ain’t even worth it
Newcastle far bigger club than shitty.
ang on ang on ang on
Are LFC’s values written down somewhere?
I think we can all have a stab at it, but to the best of my knowledge it’s not an easy thing to find consensus on. I’m well aware of Shankly’s socialism, and his famous quote on that. And I know many in the city lean to the left, politically.
But when local groups like Spirit of Shankly try to exert pressure on an issue, or try to speak on behalf of all fans, sometimes it hits the mark, but sometimes it misses.
We are owned by billionaires and much as I love Shanks and what he stood for, as well as his achievements in dragging us up from the second division and putting us on the map, most of what we have now, in and around the game, would be unrecognizable to him.
Maybe I’m off on a Shanks tangent, but that’s what comes to mind when I start to think about LFC values. I think it’s tricky business to nail down our values crisply enough so that they have meaning. We might be able to come up with some general stuff that everyone agrees with, but at that point I would imagine fans of other clubs would agree with it too.
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Maybe we could just start from the most fundamental and work up from there?
We respect and defend human rights.
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Sure, they’ll sack him. Will be interesting to see if someone else gives him a shot. On points and table position, his PL reign (speaking of Newcastle only) is indistinguishable from Rafa’s, which really is saying something (yes, Rafa brought them back up, not slighting him). He built on his predecessor’s work to keep the club comfortably safe from relegation. They might have done much worse under others.
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Is that what Liverpool Football Club is most known for?
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with it wholeheartedly, but it just seems stated to illustrate that Saudi Arabia do not have a good record on human rights.
Also, I would imagine almost all fans at every other professional football team in the UK would be on board with respecting and defending human rights (you could make a couple of obvious exceptions) so at that point, it loses impact in terms of stating what we, at LFC, are for… because everyone else is for it too. (Almost everyone else).