Last season by the turn of the year he had 18 goals and 13 assists after 20 PL games. His all over contribution and play has (IMO permanently) dropped off a cliff in the last 6-8 months and instead of being that outlet to score he is giving us nothing. Even simply replacing him with Chiesa/Rio/Isak would immediately boost the team.
Similarly dropping the consistently underperforming Alexis - Curtis and even Endo can play here - and ideally Konate (I do wonder if JoGo can be expected to play 2 games a week and last long enough to form a strong partnership wiht Virg) should also be dropped.
Just doing this would hugely help and also give more space for Flo and Alex to be integrated.
Slot has been unlucky at RB and CB but he needs to do so much better and make the tough decisions re Mo and Alexis
That’s fine. Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion, but when that different opinion involves wanting the same as rival fans who are taking the mick out of us then it can seem like gaslighting…
Not to pick on you or on anyone else, but I read this kind of comments, and try to put myself in Hughes’, Edward’s and fsg’s shoes. There needs to be a clear back-up plan. They can’t simply pull the plug and then start looking for someone.
So, do they have one? I’m quite sure that after last season’s brillance, no-one expected this situation to happen. Maybe a struggle, yes, after Diogo’s death and the heavy turnover, but surely not such a slump. That probably means that they have no idea of how to proceed from here on. All they’ll have is maybe a shortlist of good managers who could fit the bill for LFC, but it needs much more than that to bring in a good manager. There is a lot of approach play needed.
That’s why I expect Slot to stay at the helm for the time being (giving it to Van Bronckhorst as a caretaker wouldn’t be a god idea, he has only just arrived). And that’s why I also think that they’ll pull out every possible effort to get behind Slot and offer support to him however they can.
He’s no freaking Brendan Rodgers. He’s a proven winner and hasn’t tried to intrigue behind the owners’ back. He’s genuine and straightforward, so the players haven’t any reason to play against him. As long as he doesn’t lose the players, he deserves to be supported in this tough time, also and especially by the fans.
That’s my position right now: I’m convinced that while this season is a write-off now, Slot will eventually get it right if given time and support. But the players need to be convinced of that. If they lose all hope and confidence in their manager, then it will be curtains. An incredible state of affairs…
The number of fucks I give - or any of us should give - about rival fans bantering us can only be seen through an electron microscope.
But just as a point of clarity I don’t think anyone here who might be arguing for patience is trying to gaslight anyone that the performances are fine, the team aren’t in trouble, or Slot is performing well.
My biggest concern with Slot is that I don’t see anything about him that makes me think he has the inspiration or gravitas to turn round what is chiefly a crisis of confidence and mentality.
But there is understandable caution from some of us about pulling the trigger on a guy who has already shown he can be a really good manager when there is no-one obvious to turn to in his place.
Of course. I’d expect that there are several PL managers who would immediately jump at the opportunity to work with our squad and I’m sure they could organise everything fairly quickly if they decide it’s time to remove Arne. I’d agree that I’d prefer (even if this is the plan) that they leave him in place until everything is sorted - I’m not keen on an interim manager.
That’s not even my biggest concern anymore. I think he’s making very poor decisions with player selection and that is hugely contributing to the mentality and confidence issues.
If the players find out or feel that he’s given a season regardless of this amount and rate of losses, that’s maybe also how they lose confidence not only in Slot, but in everyone above them.
It’s not healthy, I don’t think anyone normal in his profession can tell Slot he has this season no matter what happens between now and May.
This is where my head is at. The three in midfield havent become crap overnight. So imo, they need looking at from a tactical perspective. All of them are guilty of getting ahead of the ball all at once.
I have sympathy with the argument that Richard Hughes sold Slot a dud in the summer. We spent loads of money but the squad is unbalanced and we didn’t address losing Trent or Diaz.
That absolutely is part of the reason we’re not as good as last year, and it’d be unfair to expect us to replicate that form.
But this is way beyond that. The squad is nowhere near 9 losses in 12 bad. The same tactical errors over and over again with no attempt to remedy them. Plan B is always full panic mode with the subs. Interviews in the media that are full of excuses and inspire zero confidence.
Slot should go if he cannot stop the rot. That doesn’t mean Hughes isn’t massively at fault too.
Last night I posted in anger saying that having supported slot up until now I no longer have any confidence that he can get us out of this either tactically or motivation wise. I woke up this morning. I’ve had a few hours at work to think about it and I still feel exactly the same. I would have loved to see him succeed. He seems like a great guy and last season he oozed confidence which was replicated by the team, however, I have seen absolutely nothing this season to suggest that when the going gets tough, he is the man to steer us through it. I really think he’s close to the end now. We surely can’t lose the next game or two and him keep his job. I’m shocked he’s still there at this point. To be honest, it’s our worst run since the 1950s for fuck’s sake!
I have been a big advocate for giving slot time and letting him turn it around, but we’re heading towards the relegation zone in the premier League and we need to be in Europe, I never saw this coming but it needs to change very very rapidly.
There are certain mitigating factors such as loosing players through no fault of his own and having to replace them and the obvious tragedy with Jota. But we can’t go on loosing games like this, if we do we will end up being relegated.
