His point to that, right or wrong, is that it needs time…
https://x.com/AnfieldSector/status/2053909326327173325
this what happens when you think you the smartest person in the room and everyone else is dumb
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Cool, fuck them. Loads of better things to do
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Or perhaps that they have enough data to choose the direction suggested here?
I mean, the history and the evidence suggest they have been smart where others have been dumb…
This is precisely what Tomkins was referencing about the modern day fans juiced on social media…
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In that case, can you explain what is it that Slot has been trying to do especially post-Arsenal away and why isn’t it working? Never mind the fitness issues, I’m talking specifically about having a consistent strategy to get the ball up the pitch to manufacture goal scoring opportunities.
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Fuck tompkins… fans are not juiced on social media, they are juiced on the fact that there is no plan during games, they are juiced on the fact that this is probably the most unfit liverpool team in the last 7-8 years, they are juiced on the fact that the no plan football being played is extremely terrible
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You can use the search function in the match threads and then juxtapose that against the point by Tomkins about the absence of a foundation of fitness for the season…
First, that is not a statement of fact. The plan is there if you have the understanding to see it.
The execution, CONSISTENCY and effectiveness is what the real issue is…
2ndly, you derided Edwards and co, for thinking they know better than everyone else, cus they do not seem to be leaning in your preferred direction.
All based on knowing absolutely nothing…Thats a deluded internet fan righ there!
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That’s not what I asked. I specifically asked what you think is our strategy to work the ball from defence to goalscoring positions.
And my answer is that I have commented on that in various match threads…
pretty tell @sgs, what was the gameplan, say against chelsea. Chelsea a team that has been outrun by virtually every side in the Premier League this season came to Anfield and out-possessed us, a team that had lost six straight. came to anfield and they were risen, Fifty-one percent possession. More shots. More shots on target. At home.
Mate, “the execution is the problem” is just “we have a plan but it never works” said with more syllables. That’s not defending anything. That’s the charge sheet.
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I’ve been very patient with Slot - more than most - so this is not coming from an impatient SM juiced fan.
I don’t think he can turn it around. I don’t think it’s a matter of time now.
If it were possible do a hard reset, put this season behind us all and start again, then I do think he could lead us to another title or two. He is still a good manager and knows what it takes. But the problem is that this kind of hard reset is just not possible IRL. There is now an enormous amount of baggage to deal with, a lot of ill feeling and that is going to carry into next season whether we like it or not. At some point Slot is going to have to make a difficult decision. Like taking of Rio in a game we are losing. I don’t think Slot has the credit to carry the fans with him on these kinds of calls.
There is a point where you have to make a change because something needs to change.
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I’ve actually given you the benefit of the doubt and had a look through a lot of your in-game comments.
There are deeply knowledgeable posters here who have in the past broken down exactly what is happening and what isn’t happening (but should be).
Suffice to say, you are not one of them.
You are very good at masquerading real knowledge and understanding but quickly resorting to snide comments and insults the moment you are pulled up on it.
Case in point being the Crystal Palace thread.
It’s okay. I have my answer.
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You sound like @GermanRed in October 
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There is still part of me that wants to see him do well, because I think he is a decent man who got deal a shit hand this summer But I think there is too much would need to go right for him to succeed at this point.
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I don’t know if he can turn it around. Mostly because I still do not know the reason(s) for our woeful performance.
That’s why I cannot definitively say one way or the other.
Many have reached the same conclusion as you have, based on the false parralel of Brendan Rogers.
This is a different manager; dare I say a more authentic person/coach. And this is a different time and circumstance, plus the fact that there’s zero parallel between both squads…
Where I share your position somewhat is in the manager/fan relationship, which is what Tomkins was railing about.
While I 100% understand Slot staying true to himself, IMO he needs to do much more to adapt to the reality of what is expected of a Liverpool manager in forging a bond with the community writ large…
That may well be his biggest challenge as a coach…
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I would sincerely hope nobody here wants him to do badly. I would be overjoyed if he started succeeding but I don’t see it happening sadly.
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“The plan is there if you have the understanding to see it.” Mate, I’ve got eyes. I watched Chelsea, a team that lost SIX games in a row, scoring in just ONE of those six, come to Anfield and walk away with a point. I watched Spurs, fucking Spurs sit on 36% possession and still put 7 shots on target at our place. I watched Brighton beat us. Wolves beat us. United beat us 3-2. If that’s the plan working, God help us when it isn’t.
You want to talk about understanding? The stats aren’t a matter of interpretation. They’re an indictment. And no amount of “you just don’t get it” changes what happened on that pitch.
As for Edwards/Hughes, I didn’t deride anyone based on nothing. I formed my opinion from watching this team capitulate to the most out-of-form sides in the league, watching our fitness fall off a cliff, watching our captain and our talisman go to the press because internal channels have apparently collapsed, and watching a squad that looks tired by the 60th minute every single week. Curtis Jones, a Scouser who has been at this club since he was nine years old, said it himself back in November: "I’m a player and a fan and I’ve not seen it like this for a long, long time. I haven’t experienced a team playing this bad.”. That’s not a deluded internet fan. That’s a longtime LFC player.
And before you say I don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes, you’re right, I don’t. Neither do you. But I don’t need a backstage pass to know what I’m watching on the pitch every Saturday. The scoreboard isn’t a matter of insider knowledge. It’s public information.
"Knowing absolutely nothing”, I know Chelsea hadn’t scored in five of their last six games before coming to Anfield. I know exactly what I saw.
A deluded fan is one who watches his team get outrun by relegated candidates, drop points to sides in freefall, and ship goals in the 90th minute to teams with nothing left to play for, and then tells people the plan is there if they simply had the intellectual capacity to recognize it.
That’s not a higher level of understanding. That’s confirmation bias with a superiority complex attached to it.
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I feel gaslit by those saying that anyone calling for change is an ignorant impatient internet fan with no understanding of the game.
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